I'm surprised the jets are not used more

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Wissam24

The game needs more Space Shuttles. And X15s. How about an SR-71. Seriously guys. The jets were they, and they had a HUGE impact on the war. To ignore them would be stupid, it would be like ignoring the different marks of Spitfire.

Wait.. first you act sarcastic about jets and then you say the should be in there? Doesn't make a lot of sense. Anyways, you claim the jets had a 'HUGE' impact on the war, which is in no way true. They came too late to actually make a difference. I'm sure if they'd been invented one or two years earlier they could've made a huge impact, but since they weren't, they didn't.

[Wissam24]

No, but they didn't just sit in the sidelines either. They were vitally important as they dictated how aviation progressed in the future

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Wissam24

No, but they didn't just sit in the sidelines either. They were vitally important as they dictated how aviation progressed in the future

The Me-163 probably made no more than 20 kills.

It is doubtful whether, after almost a year in service, the rocket fighter caused the destruction of more than 16 enemy aircraft. Ref: Jeffrey Ethell & Alfred Price, "World War II Fighting Jets". Bernd Barbas, "Planes of the Luftwaffe Fighter Aces", 'only about 20 victories were claimed.'
(Taken from http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopic...WII-82445.html)

The plane also in no way dictated how aviation progressed.
This is true for the Me-262, and a lot of later jets were based on it, but does that mean that it has to be in the game, when it only makes it unbalanced?

[Wissam24]

And the Me-262 is accounted for over 500 kills. Since when was I talking exclusively about the Me163?

[Ancient Seraph]

Against almost 5,000 for the Mustang. Not that impressive.

[Wissam24]

Yeah, I mean lets face it, all those Aces who only got 5 or 6 kills. They ALL suck compared to Erich Hartmann. Man. Every pilot ever sucks, cause he got all those kills.

Just cause another plane did very well doesn't mean another plane didn't. The Wright Brother's plane only flew 200 odd feet, you going to say that had a negligible impact on aviation?

[Ancient Seraph]

I repeat, why would a plane be in a game if it has such a negative impact on it, just because it was important for later development? I acknowledge the fact that it had a big impact, but only on development after the war.

[akuma]

When I made this thread I didn't realise just how much jet rage there was.

But its a fact that jets were part of WW2, and they did indeed unbalance it, so I dont see why the game makers would ignore such a fact of vital importance. However if you want to cry about balance perhaps we should remove machine guns and assult rifles from WW2 games as they unbalance it and I dont like it??????

As for the ME262 kills, they were introduced much later in the war, most historians agree that had Hilter allowed the 262 to be entered into the war as a fighter, and not held out for a fighter-bomber then things could well have been very, very different.