Re: Ta-183

[Pugo3]

I have several aircraft I would like to put forth for TD consideration for review and/or to receive input from more knowledgeable members, so I will post separately for each aircraft to aid in searches.

First up, the Ta 183. My understanding was that the original Ubisoft developers found engineering flaws with the tail assembly, so factored in 'correctives' of strengthening this area, with corresponding significant weight increases to the aircraft, with corresponding diminished aircraft performance. Also, it is my recollection that the developers incorporated the Jumo 004 rather than the anticipated more powerful HeS 011, thereby substantially under powering the designers original specifications with again, a serious degradation of performance. Result: a pretty lack luster, uninspiring interpretation. The time to speed is horrible, and energy bleed off is rapid during any maneuver, as expected with such an overweight and under powered depiction.

I have flown versions of the 183 on other simms that present the aircraft using the manufactures specs with anticipated performance, and when so modeled, it is a dream to fly. One developer used 'Absolute Realism' technique [there term] in which they fly the aircraft through all flight parameters all the way up to max service ceiling during development to arrive at accurate performance as close to available data as possible.

Given the extraordinary capabilities of the German designers/engineers, especially under the pressures and demands of the late war years, it seems to me that a solution for any structural strengthening of the tail section would have been found that would have overcome any such problem without such drastic weight penalties as have been used by the Ubisoft team, but I understand this will be a debated topic. I vaguely recall a thread wherein some member pointed out the Mig 300 I believe it was, where the Russian jet engine had never been successfully accomplished, yet was nevertheless incorporated into the Ubisoft rendered aircraft. Might we see a version of the Ta 183 as it was intended with weight and power restored to the designers intent? Perhaps this be in the realm of Mods, but I would like to open the discussion to the members and TD for consideration. It really is a fun aircraft when rendered as per the Luftwaffe specs, and would be a great thrill going up against Mig 15/17 and F-86 included in the various mod pacs.

I think I speak for many in this being one of the Il-2 aircraft that I have set aside indefinitely as far as flight time in Il-2 1946, with regret, but perhaps the aircraft might be revisited by TD or mod developers and resuscitated from it's present miserable state.