Friday Update, February 17, 2012

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Very wrong for most folks. Ppl who love planes are "born with that love". If you "infect" 2 out of 1000 bf2 guys with sims like CLOD or ROF I will applaud you.

I posted a thread in the pilots lounge a few days ago regarding which games people here have installed. For some reason BF series games where on many CloD players drives... So the world is maybe not black and white?

Link:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=29759

The good ole Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield 2 is rather fun actually. Naturally the planes are completely arcade but why not have a game for the ones that like high fidelity simulation of vehicles and can take some arcadish ground combat to spice it up? Besides, if tanks are well done we could have a bunch of people playing "Tank only" servers and that cash flow would not hurt the ones spending time in the "plane only" servers? The combination is naturally the Grail, but like commented here before it's very hard to make a "combined simulation" work as planes flying at 500km/h+ needs hundreds of kilometers of maps but tanks would simply be too spread out then, driving for an hour like in warbirds only to be "ganked" by a flight of Stukas...

[Jumo211]

He he , it is reminding of the first version of drivable Volkswagen Kubelwagen
still with the first early alpha unfinished interior
Good old days , be sure .......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKSFRANHnLc

[No145_Bunny]

Originally Posted by Osprey

1. It's not unusable. Our crew are regularly getting into scraps on our server and we have formations of 30+ enemy regularly.
2. How many have actually tried? I mean, with respect, I don't remember ever seeing any TP online, and since you are admitting that 40+ of your guys haven't bought it yet anyway then you can't have tried it.
3. Look at the bigger picture. Without expansion you won't have a sim, it needs funding and this market is too niche. It isn't 2003 anymore.

My regards to Hatter.

Im sorry, but a few of us T.P's have bought CLOD and have tried (very hard) to get a decent IL2 style coop going and have been faced with problem after problem after problem.

Dont get the wrong idea, we want CLOD to be a massive success and we want it to be the combat flight sim of choice for everyone, but compared to the "multi-player" playability of IL2, its just not there.

It speaks volumes in my mind that the only decent multi-player server out there is the ATAG one and that is primarily a dog fight server. IL2 has on 2000+ players on-line most nights in hyperlobby and lots of coops.

I like the vehicles BUT the hours spent on them could have been far better spent getting the other issues fixed first.

We at T.P have waited for 7-8 years to fly a BoB style campaign in a simulator that could do it justice, CLoD was meant to be just that, so you will understand our dissapointment.

Still maybe we call all "drive" a multiplayer race around the airfield perimeter track looking at all the lovely aircraft that we cant fly together?

No_145 Bunny

[150GCT_Veltro]

Don't forget about this feature, we need them for training:

Originally Posted by mazex

I posted a thread in the pilots lounge a few days ago regarding which games people here have installed. For some reason BF series games where on many CloD players drives... So the world is maybe not black and white?

Eh But the other way around? I mean I play RO2 and ARMA2. But most ARMA2 and RO2 players never heard for CLOD or IL2 and arent interested in flight sims in general...at all.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Eh But the other way around? I mean I play RO2 and ARMA2. But most ARMA2 and RO2 players never heard for CLOD or IL2 and arent interested in flight sims in general...at all.

Look in my list of games in the thread I posted. Have played all ARMA/Flashpoint and RO games...

My top list of favourite games:

1. Flight Sims
2. ARMA style games (can enjoy BF series too)
3. Tank warfare games
4. Wargames
5. Racing games
6. Role playing games

With that list you can imagine that it's a wet dream for me with a CloD version with tanks and ground combat, with 1930 racers as a silly bonus and a strategic interface as the icing of the cake in a few years Wait - add some roleplaying element too and the list is covered on all bases...

[Stealth_Eagle]

Wow, I am probably the only one in a group that supports this flight sim compared to others.

[Tigertooo]

Originally Posted by No145_Bunny

Well,

this is a worry. I applaud the ability to make CLoD more appealing to more people who want to use vehicles and flak positions in such a way.
However,
The success of the original IL2 series was built on multiplayer Squadrons and on-line play using coops. The developers MUST fix/improve the multiplayer aspect of CLoD so that the VERY MANY SQUADRONS out there can invest their money and time into the product that should be the "next" IL2.

I am a member of a Squadron of 40+ players that all fly the original IL2, we want to purchase CLoD and use it BUT WE CANT BECAUSE MULTIPLAYER IS UNUSABLE!! Please work out how much money IC is losing in just this circumstance!

And yet we are presented with new features so we are able to drive vehicles, brilliant, but we still cant fly in the flight simulator that we want to.

Your best stream of revenue must surely come from on-line Squadrons ? Shouldnt this take priority instead of vehicles I can drive around in whilst what I really want to do is fly a coop with 20+ Squadron members over the channel in the Battle of Britain ?

Sorry to sound full of despair......... but I am

No145_Bunny
Tangmere Pilots

www.tangmerepilots.co.uk

I agree Bunny

[furbs]

Ive been saying COOPs are badly needed since the release but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Just think, Once people start driving their Wirbelwinds onto opposing airfields, nobody will ever complain about Vulchers again!!!!!!