Landing & Taking off incredibly easy

[Buchon]

I did manage to damage my landing gear several times, even punched my tires.

The new physics and the landing gear model is a lot better, and the grip of differents surfaces has improved alot too, that is more realistic now.

In IL-2 1946 is just wrong, its not full modeled :

The lack of the mentioned improvements, and the crazy and unrealistic bouncing, makes the landings frustrating, impossible to do outside of landing tracks, very unreal for a plane with a landing gear of a WWII.

I like how is in ClOD, has improved a lot, very satisfactory now.

[unreasonable]

Originally Posted by Buchon

I like how is in ClOD, has improved a lot, very satisfactory now.

+1

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Viper2000

OTOH, this sort of stuff isn't exactly easy to get data on.

Actually it wouldn't be that hard.Alot of the restorations that fly now have data recorders fitted to them to measure the stresses and strains.
http://www.uk-warbirds.net/operators_hfl.html
There are more warbirds from both allied and axis side flying now than since the war and pilots from both ww2 and todays pilots flying them are still around.
Where there's a will there's a way.
This is something i can't understand about the audio,realistic engine sounds,they say they can't sent anyone to record them,mmmmm.

[Blackdog_kt]

What they actually said is that they couldn't afford to send one to record them, not that they couldn't ( cost of shipping the equipment but most of all, paying for the cost of running an antique engine with massive servicing costs for a few hours).

[ElAurens]

Exactly.

People just don't understand that running a Spit/Hurri/109/P51/whateverwarbird costs about $2000 US per hour.

And add to that the fact that most war bird owners consider us flight simmers merely as pests, and you start to see the reality of the issue.

[Sauf]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

And add to that the fact that most war bird owners consider us flight simmers merely as pests, and you start to see the reality of the issue.

Prolly cause we'd point at their a/c and tell em the gunsight/cockpit/paintscheme/.50 cal/seat position/ is PORKED!

[Trumper]

Sorry to disagree BUT there are Merlin engines that are run upon test beds for the public.There are Merlin engines that fly at air displays and i have seen several people with professional standard cameras and audio recording equipment.
If you wanted to hire out a Spitfire then yes i agree on costs BUT they are around and accessible if you want to make the effort.
There is no excuse for lawn mower sounds in 2011 and 6 years into the development of this sim.
Yes i know this isn't a Merlin LOL but i managed to take this on amateur equipment years ago,there are better recordings around and available to use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQQj1...eature=related

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Trumper

there are better recordings around and available to use.

Nice vid, not high enough quality for game sound though.

I also will take issue with your claim that there are recordings available to use.

A. Name them. Where are these recordings?

B. Do you think that their authors will just happily donate their use so someone else can use them to make money?

C. Does no one understand that this is a business and that it's all about the money?

[Trumper]

My point is it is all doable.This game has been in development for a long time and really should and could be better sound wise than it is.
There is enough talent in the community to make mods to improve things surely there are people who over a period of time could record real life engines to be used in a sim.
An interesting point as is the legal ownership of audio though.Does it belong to the person owning the engine the noise is emitted from or by the person who records the said noise?
I would guess the person recording otherwise cameras and other audio recording devices would be banned from airshows.