Beating the game without any unit losses (Paladin)

[Chase]

Hey,

Im playing paladin for the first time on Hard this time around. And I wanted to try beating the game without any unit losses.

I have however found that this is impossible during the initial training as the Priest uses a damage spell on you that kills units within the stack he picks. I guess I could use ressurection, but I would rather save it until I can learn it and not waste it in the 2nd battle in the game.

Also after some failing on the dragon I noticed that I could just run around him and snatch the princess .

My short-mid term plan is to go for the frog wife with royal snakes and get 4 archers and this should work for a while atleast.

So how do I pull this one off? And any futher tips are greatly appreciated. I really struggled with this fight last night.

[Zuvio]

Impossible Paladin with no losses by Sector24

Enjoy!

P.S. there is no way to beat the emerald training dragon without losses. Indeed save the princess without engaging the dragon. For the mage trial, just reload until he does not use magic axe. It depends on luck. After a reload, position your troops elsewhere on the map to reduce the chance of getting the magic axe.

[Xantus]

Sector24 did it on hard not impossible.

Dismiss the weak unit (or does it count towards losses) leaving only horsemen and knigts you will get the initial troops after the trial anyway.

[Chase]

Thanks to the both of you!

Yeah it was the magic axe that keept making trouble for me. Ill try the reloading trick

Is there a way to see what counts as a unit loss without beating the game? It would be nice if I could keep track of my losses during my campaign. Especially as Im not sure if dismissing units counts towards losses.

Do you also lose days when traveling between the different zones on a continent? Im also using this run to get the feel for a good Impossible score run. I read that you loose quite alot when traveling between the different continents, but I am unsure how the days pass in general.

My initial strategy is to get the Inq upgrade fast with the inq/priest belt (as its not that rare) while having the frog wife with royal snakes. Perhaps even pick up the normal snakes and drop the archer alltogheter.

Priest, Inq, archmage and 2 snakes should be viable for a while.

Ive never actually tried the Griffins as I dident feel I had room for they, are they actually that viable?

[Ryder]

I finished an impossible Paladin game with no losses last night. You can complete a stack of quests before you even start fighting. On another thread I named 22 quests you can do with only fighting the Robbers and the Turtle.

Dismissing units doesnt count, only losses in battles count. I had some evlins eat some of my army and they didnt count.

Because I dont start fighting until I'm about level 6 it makes the battles alot easier as my army is pretty good. You should go to the Alchemist guy in the Marshan Swamp and get some Alchemists off him, they are great for early in the game. Also, when you recieve the potion from the witch to blow up his little chemistry set, make sure you 'use it', the result is quite funny. (If you havent done so before).

My army for most of the early part of the game was Archers, Inquisitors, Griffins, Alchemists and Evil Beholders (from Western Islands).

[Zuvio]

Just make sure that after each battle you do not have any units in the losses screen. So sacrifice + resurrection does not give you unit losses.

[Razorflame]

aren't there alot of thread already about games without unit losses?

first thing u need is ALOT of patience

if you do the sacri+resu+magic spring trick

and by not killling the dragon u lose alot of XP

and besides do the trials work on the actual game?

since it's a tutorial

[Chase]

@ Ryder: Thanks for the starter advices. Initially I had some problems around lvl 1-2 so I just went around and did quests until I was level 4. Then I started picking off the weaker units. So your advice helped alot. I will also pick up alchemists, but Im unsure where to sub them in to my current setup .

@ Zuvio: Yeah I am currently. Res have helped me alot and Im unsure if I could do it this "easily" as a mage or a warrior .

@ Razorflame: Yes I noticed a few of them after I made my post. Im still new to the forums so I had a hard time navigating as all the information is a bit spread out . Im also not sure if losses in the tutorial count, but even tho the dragon is a good chunk og xp it would be horrible to beat the rest of the game without any losses only to find that those 2 units you lost on the dragon did count. As for patience Ive had to reload a few times. Especially on the werewolf "boss" as they managed to rush me and infect my archers. But I got there in the end .

Progress:
Im now level 5 and Ive cleared out 1/3rd of the continent and completed 15 quests. I currently use Horsemen, Griffins, Archers, Priests and Archmages. I found a tactic that works well for me now and its sending the the Horsemen with Priest bless and Archmage shield in for soaking. The Griffin is support in the back and my casters buff the Horsemen or dps the closest target. I havent been able to find Royal Snakes yet as they arent in any of the normal locations, so Ive had a bit of bad luck there. But I found 300 griffins at the guy who keep the frogs as slaves so I hit some luck there.

I really enjoy playing my paladin this way and I would advice more people to try it out. Probably the most fun Ive had with a character initially, but it does require alot of thinking and some reloading .

I also found the +1 speed snake boots so I wish I had some luck with the royal snakes soon. But Im not sure where I would fit them in my current setup. Same goes with Alchemists. I HAVE to fit the Royal snakes tho as they are my mid game strategy with the frog wife and especially now that I found the boots.

Im also going for Inq's in the mind tree by puting 1 point into everything and Im only a few levels off. I have so many viable strategies to try out that I just cant wait to get home and play more .

Btw could the frog wife be bugged for me? She doesnt want to talk to me except to say "quack quack". Or do I have to trigger her somehow? I dont think I had to do that in any of my previous games, but I dunno.

Anyhow Ill keep posting about my progress if people are interested . Thanks for all the advice so far!

[Razorflame]

a bad unit choice if u ask me

furthermore before the frog wife talks to you, you need to go to the arlania castle and start the quest there

[Chase]

How is it a bad unit choice? Im very open for input