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Originally Posted by DC338
The essential problem and the neglected for most of this thread is how do you simulate it?
I think all sides would agree that the Spitfire had sensitive elevator controls. The degree of problem to the pilot is the issue. Yet with a simulator you have other issues that help or hinder the issue.
1.The problem is how do you simulate that in a game where control curves can be altered?
2.How do you simulate it in a game where you don't have the same control type as the real aircraft, with the same type and length of stick.
3.How do you simulate the different trim types. Some had stab trim which suits a return to center type arrangement such as the joysticks we all use. The majority however had trim tabs that change the stick position. how do you accountant for that in the sim? The shifting of the control curve as mentioned above.
4. How do you simulate the tactit feedback that a pilot gets in relation to G and buffet.
5. Who decides how strong the pilot is. This will become the issue when taking about aircraft with "heavy" controls. Heavy to whom.
This thread of 60 odd pages is like a merry go round.
To discuss the issue without addressing how you would simulate and the issues surrounding doing that, is a waste of %%(#ing time and energy.
You are arguing about degrees yet essentially want the same thing, accuracy. "forest for the trees" comes to mind. This is such a small issue in a sim that has much bigger problems, like aircraft not performing to spec.
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For #1, dont make the controls adjustable, the pilot has to adapt to the plane, not the other way around.(only in game adjustments for axes, no native software)
#2, calculate the difference from the different steering columns to a average joystick and use this values for all.
#3, can't be simulated at the moment, same for all, no advantage for anyone.
#4, buffet can be simulated with head shake and g with increasing tunnel vision.
#5, must be 'Joe Average' for all pilots, in a few years maybe a body scan and a computerized fitness test in the setup.
(With the body scan some pilots i know couldn't fly 109's anymore
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Just a few ideas, because it is easy to come up with problems, less so with solutions.