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Old 06-10-2012, 08:08 PM
Blackdog_kt Blackdog_kt is offline
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Originally Posted by Osprey View Post
Have you raised a bug on it? That's the way to get it through.
Actually it's not a bug, it's a suggestion for a new feature. What i classify as a bug is when something exists but doesn't work correctly. When it doesn't even exist there is no bug, because there is nothing to work incorrectly.

But yes, i have started a thread dedicated to bombers and twin-engined aircraft here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32592

My purpose is to collect both bug reports and suggestions in one place. Then we can submit the bugs to bug tracker and communicate the suggestions through here.

Personally speaking, i don't want to lightheartedly classify suggestions as bugs. It feels like i'm trying to apply extra pressure to fix my preferred aspects of the sim before those of others. As a result, i think it's misleading to new users and unfair to other players.

Not that i'm holding it against anyone whose interpretation is different, it's just my personal outlook on the whole thing and i find it inconsiderate to the community as a whole. I mean, i watched the whole 100 oct debate from a safe distance and i was getting the same feeling: too many people on both sides trying to argue in terms of bugs when in reality it was a missing feature and as all features, it needs to come with on/off options and/or a way to model availability. Luckily for me, the developers seem to share this view and we will get both variants, instead of only getting one or the other.

I think that i could very easily push for delaying the patch one more week to fix the bombers too. I am a moderator so i could unfairly sticky my own thread without waiting to see if enough people are interested, i'm in contact with quite a few people who fly bombers that would vote in favor of the fixes if i raised a poll, i tend to be calm in arguments and people are more likely to be convinced as a result, etc etc.

What i'm trying to say is, if i aggressively campaigned this issue (like i did with the clickable cockpits during development and we ended up getting just that) i could have a high-prominence thread generating a good amount of pages from other bomber pilots and quite a few votes on the tracker.

Then everyone would have to wait at least a week more for the bombers to get fixed just so i could get my way, while in reality the total amount of time until i got a working gyrocompass on the Ju88 would be the same, regardless if they released two patches to fix things separately or one patch to fix everything in one go. The only difference would be that the fighter jocks wouldn't be able to enjoy the goodies in the meantime, until i also got what i wanted.

And that's why i don't agree with labeling everything a bug. It's like applying unfair pressure with the aim that others cannot have their fun until i have mine, even if the total amount of time needed for the fixes is the same. I mean, how anti-social would that be on my part?

What i'm trying to say is, people should exercise some patience and consideration because if the community at large is desensitized to this method of demanding changes, it won't be long before someone else comes along, does the same thing and gets the developer team to implement things in a way we don't like.


Back on the topic of bombers though, i would invite anyone interested to post in that thread, just to let me know if there is enough interest in the community. If there is, i will sticky it and move it off the front page to a more relevant section so we can continue testing and brainstorming.
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