gimpy you seem to be lucky meeting inexperienced 109 pilots. Or was that an AI?
In my book it's not the plane that holds energy, it's the pilot. If you did your evasive turn to the left clean enough and he tried to follow you and turn with you instead of climbing (and not missing the burst in the first place) and yo yo into your turn (no matter how tight, 109 rolls fast enough) outmanoevering you effectively. If the 109 was me, I'd probably turn with you for a while, especially so after scoring some hits and if you'd be gaining angles on me I would still be able to extend safely, horizontally or vertically. And I am not quite as good as 109 specialists.
Same goes for the Spitfire - if your turn is sloppy, you'd lose lots of E, drop wing or stall alltogether.
The above is based on my experience online as RAF or LW pilot, yrmv of course.
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