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Originally Posted by priller26
Im not looking to flame or trolling..simple question..at some point is it likely or feasible that some designers come in and really take over and fix this game? It just seems a half year has passed on promising graphics fixes..and they just dont work. At some point, it would seem you have to really consider if the devs can fix this thing.
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you'r misinterpreting a minor cosmetic glitch that added an additional weeks delay to the long awaited patch, and confusing it with "a major problem with the new gfx engine" that will never be fixed. rewriting a gfx engine in a "small house" production team in 6 months is pretty good going.
you still fail to comprehend that SoW-BoB was not intended to be released last year in its "current state", it wasnt ready or complete, and no sane producer would have done so deliberately under normal circumstances. yet ubi/1C put their foot down, and it was either that (whatever you got when you bought it 12 months ago), or NOTHING (and there would have been a whine chorus for 20 years lamenting that, since the whole project would have been canned and there is NO OTHER flightsim team doing anything similar).
in case you missed it, in the leadup to the intended 2010 release.....:
in early 2010 oleg and Co seemed confident a release by the end of that year ("anniversary of BoB in late october 2010") was their intended target date. oleg's projects like this had always been built in a modular fashion (gfx engine, aircraft AI, FM, DM, etc each being worked on by a separate team) and then in the last phase of the project get assembled together. but in the last 6 months of that time frame they couldnt get the gfx engine to perform as expected (and yes those programers seem to have been out of their depth). they did at least 2 rebuilds of that same gfx engine, and by the time it was 3 month before intended release date and they realized this wasnt working, it was TO LATE ! they didnt have the option anymore to spend 9 months on a complete rebuild from scratch and recode it with other programers, and ubi/1C put their foot down and forced the release "as was" (with oleg likely to have refused and insisted on more time, oleg leaving as a result, and luthier taking over)
the release, and wasting 6 months of rebuild time:
following release in early 2011 luthier made a mad scramble to fix and improve things, both with gfx engine and the other modular elements that had been neglected to get their final polish and refinement, but in those initial 6 months he only was able to improve the gfx engine to the point it would run halfway decent on top end pc's, and even then in the gfx engine they had to tone down all kinds of goodies (lighting effect, AA etc..). so about 7 months ago luthier decided on a full rebuilt of the gfx engine (which really should have been started in mid 2010), and that is what is about to be released now, at long last we get "what CoD could have been" had there been no forced release (and subsequent lost time in still trying to fix the old broken gfx engine)
what we are about to receive now in the gfx engine "patch":
this should solve most of the major performance problems, and allow it to run reasonably well on mid range pc's, and have most options on higher settings for high end pc's (but not everything on full max, even the original il2 10 years ago was not able to do that either). and i am quiet confident at long last most of us will be able to start enjoying the game.
so what are the real problems we are facing ?
there are some major other issues we do need resolved, and i am not sure luthier is prepared to do this, or even recognizes the seriousness of the problem. eg once the gfx engine functions reasonably well,
his attention should go to completing the other major elements of CoD that are missing, rather then leave it and try and sell us BoM. currently the only "working" element of CoD is a simple version of air-quake, and it is a significant step behind and below what had become possible with the 1946-il2 series, which had evolved into a much more advanced and multi-faceted game. the SoW series (we now received the first installment of) should take things to the next level, but it isnt, and it hasnt,
THAT is what should now be addressed, and the important main elements of this should now be completed/finished and made available to use as a matter of immediate priority. and elements luthier wont have time for or wants to open up to 3e parties he should now also make available. imo opinion, so that other outside groups can start making other elements of the game he doesnt have time for, and the community can get involved and make the whole game expand rapidly into what it was intended to be. 50% of his time should go to addressing those issues, and the other 50% focused on the next sequel BoM.
we need as an immediate next step for luthier to fix/complete:
- correct fine tuning of FM for the main aircraft that duel in the sky, this is ESSENTIAL to have the right historical strength/weakness relationship, so we can simulate what historically occurred in those major conflicts, AND have pilot skill make the difference in the combat outcome AND be able to execute correct historical combat maneuvers with these planes, not favored and distorted preferences in how the planes are modeled
- distant LoD model visibility should be a major priority to fix correctly, and not be some minor afterthought. having correct visibility of distant planes/ground-objects to locate, identify, and track during engagement is ESSENTIAL to correctly SIMULATE a ww2 pilot experience in a dogfight or when targeting objects on the ground
- we need correct implementation of cloud and terrain masking for AI
- fixes for minor errors with specific planes, some controls not working or reversed, missing siren for the stuka, etc..
- lack of tree collision modeling
- no structured coop function (with people still able to join while mission has started, and being able to switch crew and aircraft positions)
- cloud models are to simple (real time dynamic weather can be postponed)
- AI behavior (mass suicide landings etc)
- no AI ground activity at airfields and on roads (need a dedicated setup/options area for this to be activated as: light, medium, high detail), so we get some civilian vehicles on the roads as well as military convoys and supply trains)
- still no dynamic campaign engine, and we have no supply lines or factories to target that affect frontline troop performance and equipment available at airfields etc.. (like munitions, fuel, repair of damaged aircraft)
- flak units are not yet made up of integrated units where elements can be damaged to reduce their overall effectiveness
- SDK for others external people to be able to work on the dynamic campaign, design some aircraft and ground object etc..
only once those main elements are corrected will we have a reasonably rounded and complete product, and have a basic version of what oleg/luthier intended (
and includes many of the elements they gave WiP reports about during development in the last 5 years)
later features and components that can then be addressed, and can be part of new and expanded features in the next sequel (like BoM)
- dynamic weather
- control of some vehicles and ships
- new plane models
- gradual implementation of dx11 features
- skeletal animation of crew and 1e person player
- 1e player able to walk, drive, fly over/on any part of the map, interacting with objects
so if you want to complain about something, complain about something that does matter and doesnt just whine about something that is beyond all of our control (including luthier's).