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Originally Posted by TooCool
Former Older,
All that you say sound nice, but there's a small problem:
NGC never sued against microsoft, as far as I know. why? maybe because microsft may be a too big oponent in court?.. or, maybe, simply because microsoft made certain that no CFS box had any company name on it.
From what I've understood, defense firms threatened to sue ubi, 1C etc, because they used their trademarks on the packages... WWII planes, as such, do not belong to them, as they were financed by tax money.
What's more, I don't remember seeing any company sueing developpers for other games before, nor do I remember them sueing any developper putting online planes like the Grumman Goose and such for FS...
I take planes" photographies... I have a Grumman Wildcat that's displayed in my web gallery... maybe they should sue me too? after all, I published a representation of a plane they built... I even had one of my pics published in a magazine.. figuring a Chance Vought Corsair taking off... why don't they sue me and the magazine who published it?
the reason is simple: it's not about the representation (because, if US law is based on precedency, it's already too late to complain, they've let go for decades), but just because of the inappropriate use of their company name...
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I'm unfamiliar with the issues you're talking about. Could it be that Microsoft didn't break the law?
Or because MS did what Ubi should have done, and could have:
asked permission to do it?? Ubisoft is not an innocent little kid, they are supposed to be in world business
This:
"because, if US law is based on precedency, it's already too late to complain, they've let go for decades"
is confusing to me. What do you mean to say? "The US" has let too much go? Northrop Grumman? The two aren't the same thing you know. It's also very hard to take a blanket statement like "because, if US law is based on precedency, it's already too late to complain, they've let go for decades" and defend it. You must realise that each case of violation of a company's rights is potentially different. You can't say "Oh well, too late, everything goes now". For one thing, of course that statement is too broad to be so. For another...the courts don't care
So, if I understand you here, you're saying that it's OK for UbiSoft to have broken the Law, and because it was NGC's rights that were violated, it's ok, and the reason is because it doesn't much matter
On the one hand I can see that you're debating this with your gut feelings- of course you know that the reasons you cite are not a good enough reason for UbiSoft to go around breaking US Law. I don't care if Microsft violated more laws, it still doesn't make what Ubi did OK. These things don't cancel out. Ubi isn't forgiven X number of violations of law for every Y number of times MS does it
On the other hand I can see that you don't appreciate that if you don't feel that NGC should be protected by US law, why should US law protect individuals or other businesses? "Ah, he had it coming. That guy had too much money. Serves him right that he got robbed" What?? You can't really feel that way
Every time I try to explain these things, somebody treats me as if *I'm* Northrop Grumman and *I* did this
Ubisoft did it. Get mad at
Ubisoft. I don't care who also broke the Law, it doesn't excuse Ubisoft's poor business and illegal practices. People get mad at NGC over this becasue that's what they've read only: "Northrop Grumman did this!". Heaven forbid anyone actually look into it, oh no! Just go with what the mob yells and that's good enough- and the reasons? Public Domain, the good old "it doesn't matter", "It's our heritage", and the oldie but goodie "Tax money paid for it". Big deal. The US government owned the planes but the designs are property of the firms that designed and/or purchased them. Just becasue the US government bought a P-51, that doesn't mean they own the rights to the design. Do you own the rights to the design of the car you drive?
When a likable guys robs some rich jerk...the likable guy is the
criminal. It doesn't matter that he robbed a jerk, people just do not think this through