The above posts by Bongodriver are eloquent lessons in getting under the skin but misguided. They typify the 'whinging-about-whinging'. It has become a sport in itself, a game (it has to be a game because there is so little factual substance to it.)

Most of of this type of post is 'getting your retaliation in first'.

Of course, attempt to head off any perfectly valid and justified critcisms at the pass...makes those facts and criticisms disappear, pfft, just like that. Err....

It doesn't matter who makes the points, it is the game (or lack thereof) that generates them. That is the fundamental weakness in all the guardsmen who cannot bear the game to face pertinent criticism, or that anyone should be held to any sort of account.

Details, man, details.

Ben