[QUOTE=TomcatViP;363748]Guys we need to open a EF2000 thread.
Guess tht wld be only one more on the web.
WHat is true is that no generation of planes had ever been so contreversial. Even the Starfighter scandal was peanuts in regards.
Yeah EF2000 is an old concept that had come long. Just hve a look to who was responsible of the initial design in the Uk
Probably that it won't stand on top in front of Pak/FA or a J20 if those ever achieve their high expectation (I am confident for the Pak/FA especially if India select either the RaF or the Ef
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will they? You can appreciate that apart for these "independent projects" of dubious quality, the market is either US or Russia really, there's political and economic ties that keep things as they are. That's why the Eurofighter was a big middle finger to the US, one not really too welcome either.
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Certainly it won't hve much chance against a F22 and will hve to fight hard to prevail against an F35 if those two achieve a reliability high enough to remain credible (I guess that when Ef would hve been sold in numbers this would help the situation ).
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You reckon? I think the Eurofighter is the only non Russian operative jet that stands a chance with the F-22, they're both armed with BVR missiles, and AA technologies are so advanced now that the whole stealth technology is getting obsolete. Besides, as you said, the F-22 and F-35 have still SO many problems (the latter in particular), and they're never cheap to fix ones..
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But let us remind WWII when many super fighters were rolled proudly in front of the hanger of their respective manufacturer... Who did bear the brunt of the Adler Tag and Pear harbor attack ? Hurricane, MS406, Wildcats and P36. They were there in large numbers, practicable and average performers for a bunch of forgotten men that stand firm at their commands.
Wht matter the most in those troubled days is that our airspace are protected.
Is the price too high and the tempo to slow ? Yes ! That's undeniable. Is that a problem related to the industrial sector ? No.
End of arguments.
You can either point Fukujima, the car manufacturer selling millions of outdated engines, the food industry and so on. But this is not a place for a technical, aviation oriented forum. It's a matter of us.
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it's also a matter of tactical warfare: funnily enough the F-22 is more of an anachronism than the Eurofighter. The development of technologies and the ever so present use of drones for ground attacks will more and more relegate piloted jets to aerial superiority, which will become less and less necessary.