Ok guys let's not make this an other "experts" issue.
Both of you are talented with no doubts.
Facts is that raising any suspicion abt the flying qualities of the SPit enclosed you immediately in a defensive posture thx to the grands Spitfire's popes tht cruise there and elsewhere on every WWII's sims forums
Reading Crumps I see that he tried only to lift the case on the difficulty to perform well in the spit in slow tight turns. There shld be a far more un-forgiving ctrls pattern for doing such in the sim just like what we have with the hurri (the hurri need cte monitoring of the slip needle).
Remind that there was some extensive washout on that wings to give artificial aileron authority near the stall (what the 109 and the hurri did achieved without any washout). This is a direct layoff of the EW (ellip. wing), the thin airfoil with a max camber point put far frwd).
I think it would be more interesting to discuss the doc IvanK has posted earlier and comments all the data and small info we can gather here.
For example the stick force for the 109 is nearly the same of that of the spit mkV at 400mph !!! That's by itself is a revolution in ll2 world !!!
