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Originally Posted by jasonbirder

That seems to me a pretty straightforward comparison...one is behaving dishonestly to gain an unfair advantage over an opponent in an online stuation...and the other is (I think you can guess) behaving dishonestly to gain an unfair advantage over an opponent in an online stuation...obviously the mechanism is different...but the results are the same...

you seem incapable of understanding scale and proportions, is that it ? so by your logic somebody stepping in a puddle of rain water is exactly the same as somebody falling in a torrential river, because both examples involve water and a human being ?

somebody pressing print screen a few yrs ago is very different from the completely open hack problem we have now, you really still fail to understand that ?

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Why is it rude for legitimate purchasers and users of a 1C game to come to the 1C forum and discuss it? Because they don't agree with you I assume...

its already been pointed out to you here that you dont own the game code by simply paying 40$ to buy the 1946 game. you simply have bought a licence to use the game as provided at the time of sale. and yes you can if you so choose even physically destroy the single personal copy you have purchased, but you have not been given the right to edit, modify, or otherwise alter the coding of the program and then disseminate it online. and promoting its illegal use is equal to aiding and abetting in the destruction of olegs property.

and prospective buyers of a new program or sim often come to the official forums to see what bugs or problems there are, and once they see there is no way to fly in a fair environment online they are less likely to buy it. which is why anything that damages the sim or reduces its value is equal to stealing from oleg.

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

I suspect Oleg is very pleased that so late in the games lifecycle it is generating such interest..

a car accident on the freeway generates "interest" from other drivers, by your logic that makes the accident a good thing. cant you see how irrational your attempted justifications are ?

most of the games that were hacked open subsequently disintegrated and collapsed, and several examples of that have already been given to illustrate that. ahh but jason, stalker and the noob cant remember one or 2 pages back, so lets keep spinning around in circles with the same discredited points as if it is something wonderful and brand new.

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

a surge in community support through continued modding and the maintaining of interest in the series until the release of BOB-SOW will suit Oleg down to the ground...Its far better for 1C than the game withering away on the vine for the next 1-2 years haemorrhaging users. Don't forget Oleg was directly questioned on the Sound Mod and he only said that he disapproved of the unfair use of Mods in Online play...

no your not paying attention again, several quotes from oleg have already been provided in these threads to show oleg said the exact opposite. and it isnt for you or your hack buddies to decide, if oleg had the intention or desire to open up part of the game to modding, he would do so himself (as he plans with selected aspects of the game in BoB)

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Oleg has stated directly that there will be no resources assigned to developing any change in the encryption and that no further development resources will be assigned to IL2 post the 4.09 patch, so how exactly will community modification impact on the development of BOB-SOW?

err you'r loosing touch with reality again. what oleg did say is that after the release of 1946 there would be one major patch only because he was concentrating on BoB. since the slovakia maps were not finished in time for 4.08 (feb 2007) there was then going to be a final 4.09 with some minor bug fixes and the new maps.

its only some months after the 4.08 release that the whole hack nonsense started. that is the point where oleg made a few posts on the topic stating he didnt have the time and resources to keep trying to fix what the vandals were breaking, and that the hack protagonists didnt seem to understand the damage it would do to the il2 sim and the online game (which you clearly dont). oleg has made absolutely no promises that he would be able to lock the game again, or that he had the time and resources to deal with it. the closest indication of him even trying to lock it again was given at a russian forum where oleg is a bit more open in stating his views on the topic (i provided that russian quote several pages back ). and the fact there is no sign of a new encryption in the 4.09 beta is a very bad sign, making it much less likely that the final 4.09 will lock il2 again for online use.

did you loose any steps there ? at least try and keep the facts straight if you are going to pretend oleg actually supports the hacking and that it is to his benefit, which is completely irrational.

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Cheating in anonymous open access stat-driven servers is solely the preserve of Online players...if the community has fostered a "win at all costs" stat driven mentality which encourages cheating, or it welcomes fliers who are prepared to cheat, then is it unreasonable to expect the online community to police itself, through stronger server administration, password restricted servers or a move towards more squadron based flying?

there is again whole logic steps missing in the string of words you are trying to combine into a phrase that makes any sense. you are now blaming the full real online server users for the existence of the hacks ? and in one sweep you then step to wanting all open online full real servers closed, and instead people should only use a few closed password protected servers with their squads, and all this because it is more convenient for jason to play with his hacks ?

this thread started with you and your hack kiddie alter ego's denying online cheating was possible with the new soundmod hacks, tho even in your own hack forum that was blatantly advertised and very openly recognized as possible. other soundmod hack evidence was also posted here how weapons and plane models are being altered and how this cant be blocked online, or is easy to detect.

your next attempt at justification was to pretend that the soundmod hack problem is nothing new, and that for years people had been doing the exact same type of thing since il2 was first released, pretending you fail to understand the difference with pressing a printscreen key to cause some online lag and the ramifications of a sim that is now completely hacked open.

and your last futile argument at least shows your true colors, you simply dont care about the people that want to fly online in a fair and equal environment, as long as you can edit whatever you want in the game for offline use. simple really, at least your selfishness is very openly recognized now for what it really is.