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Originally Posted by Flanker35M
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Hopefully we do NOT see the "TWAT" symbol when starting up SoW one day. Would be a big error to margin a game already in a small niché to just one brand..again. Should have learned that from IL-2.
Blaming AMD for NOT developing SoW with Oleg is pretty darn useless as we do NOT know anything what goes on deep behind the scenes. We get tidbits of info, but Oleg does NOT share confidential information with the community. Be Sure!
I read at some point Luthier(if I remember right) had a machine with AMD 5870HD for testing SoW. Both AMD and NV support DX9-11 that are to be used in SoW, would not worry about it 
I run AMD system, have a 580GTX too and must say that in games I play (VSync is ON) I see no difference in performance AT ALL between the cards. IL-2 is an exception but it is "TWAT" certified as we all know.
Benchmarks are different, but if BOTH brands can push a steady 60fps+ at your preferred resolution/settings then it is just stupid to argue if the other brand can do 200fps and the other 190fps..as you can not see the difference at all  |
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Originally Posted by addman
Isn't it very simple though? Buy the best you can for the money you have! I can't afford a new monster card at the moment but even if I could, why would I want to fork out X amount of € now? SoW is still far off. General advice, wait til SoW is released, try it with your current hardware. You might be surprised/dissapointed at the performance but at least you'll know what the game demands, IMHO of course.
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Originally Posted by speculum jockey
Good advice. Everyone always quotes Nvidia/ATI's flagship card, but really few people buy them. They're just bragging rights because anyone with 1/2 a brain waits for the next "middle of the road" card release 3-4 months later that has the same or better performance at 1/2 the price. I'm waiting a few months after it's out. Maybe wait for a patch or two. Then after all the reviews and tests are out I'm going to pick the card (whatever brand) that runs it best for the money I'm willing to spend.
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That's pretty much the way i see it as well. I've had nVidia cards all my life but got an Ati for the first time when i bought my latest system, simply because it was better and cheaper than nVidia's offerings for my preferred price range at that point in time.
All i care about is having a card that gives me about 50-60 FPS in mid-high settings or 35-50 FPS in high settings (not perfect for now, just a bit more than middle of the road), runs cool and low on wattage and is not terribly expensive. I have a single 1680x1050 22" monitor as well, so it's not like i'm going to need something that can push an awful lot of pixels anytime soon, in fact i will probably bring up my RAM from 3 to 6GB before i even consider swapping my Ati 4890 1GB.
Also, the thread title is misleading as there's no official verdict on which brand runs SoW better and the reason is simple: we don't have SoW yet to run any benchmarks on. All we know is nVidia is interested in pushing some cards to the flight sim crowd, but we don't know how well their architecture works with the game engine or what AMD will or won't do.
IL2 is nVidia friendly due to OpenGL. SoW is a directx game engine, so as long as both GPU manufacturers come up with driver updates to correct any possible glitches it will be just fine either way. And that's the way it should be, because lack of competition only hurts us, the consumers. For example, if the end result from picking any brand is a gain of 10 FPS for an extra 150$ then they can keep their extra 10 FPS, i can wait and run things in lower detail for another 6 months before things get cheaper
In any case, there's a lot of speculating and quoting benchmarks from games that are fundamentally different from flight sims (like first person shooters for example) in the way they work and what kind of resources they depend on. Well, i don't need 150 FPS, give me 50 FPS but
stable/constant frame rates so as not to mess up my gunnery, some fast RAM to shorten the map loading times and that's what i need for my flight simming. We don't really know much about the kind of graphics features the SoW engine will or will not use, or how much it will benefit from each GPU architecture. Case in point, the excitement about tesselation (used mainly in shooters up to now) until Oleg Maddox himself went forward and said that SoW won't use any tesselation at all.
The whole situation reminds me of a Greek saying that goes "the fish are still in the water but the frying pan is already on the fire"
