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Old 12-14-2010, 07:15 AM
Erkki Erkki is offline
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Thats the way to win an argue, simply proclaim yourself a winner and insult everyone disagreeing the best you can. Unique.


Anyone who knows anything from this subject should know that there was no one issue for the Luftwaffe that prevented it from effectively intercepting USAAF heavies and later claiming aerial superiority even over its own soil.

Industrial capacity. By late 43, U.S. built just B-24s at a rate of 1 per hour, 24 a day. All in all, 200-ish combat aircraft every single day, of which about 1/5th to 1/4th were directed to the Pacific. Add to this all Soviet, British, Canadian etc. production. Germany could manufacture a mere fraction of the hardware that could be used against it.

Technology. While the Germans certainly had "better" equipment early on, the Allies, especially Western ones, were quickly gaining on them. Combined to industrial might, it kind of doesnt matter if you happen to fly a 20kmph faster fighter, if the opposing air force has the numbers to park 50 il-2s 5 times a day over your airfield with hundreds of aircraft escorting, and with your 109 blown to pieces, there is nothing you can do about the same 50 il2s bombing and strafing up your already hugely outnumbered troops. Or how the Allies landed in Normandy, and during the whole day, Luftwaffe managed to fly 2 sorties over the beaches. Allies flew 21,000 and continued their bombing campaign over Low countries and Germany.

Leadership. The unbelievable mistakes done by the very high HQ were the ones that that left Luftwaffe in the well known situation in the first place. Inability to use possessed resources to their full extent, waging war on 3 fronts simultaneously, thinking that arranging fancy parades in Berlin starring pale skinned blue eyed and yellow haired aryan "supersoldiers" is more important than winning the war. Actually decreasing the fighter production in the middle of the Battle of Britain... anyone?

In the end of the war, Luftwaffe was outnumbered 20:1 or worse, the enemy had the range for the Luftwaffe to have no place to hide, its aircraft were no longer better than its opponents, its pilots' average skill had gone down because German HQ never bothered to set up a proper pilot training in time, and when it tried it was too late, and had they had the time to fully train their pilots, they would not have had the fuel to do so.

By the way, there are a lot of objectionally written books on this topic. I recommend at least moilami to read a couple of them...

Maybe we should make a poll of it, "what won the war"?

a) P51
b) americans in normandy
c) germans were cowards

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