lol, well I did something revolutionary a few years ago Andy, I phoned up Ubisoft to find out what the hell was going off with SOW, because this site was dead at the time as far as SOW was concerned, anyhow I managed to get through to a guy called James O'Reilly, Ubisoft's Group Brand Manager, he was brilliant, he told me Ubi were no longer involved and hadn't been for some time. Obviously I was called a lying b*stard by the usual suspects. I would like to add that Oleg has never confirmed that Ubi are not involved, but its obvious to even the most ardent of weasels that they arn't.