[AndyJWest]

I see little point in discussing your last post, Splitter. It makes little sense alongside your previous ones. I'll just leave you with this to think about:

let's pretend that renewable fuels were available just a bit cheaper than oil.

Do you actually think the middle east holds an infinite supply of oil? If not, what are you proposing we do when it runs out? And if we can do whatever is required when it runs out, wouldn't it be better to do it sooner, and thus avoid all the problems of relying on energy sources in politically unstable regions?

(P.S. Drewpee, history never repeats exactly, contrary to what Splitter suggests. Indeed, Marx suggested that history occurs first as tragedy and then as farce. For the sake of humanity, I hope he's right.)