I'm already disappointed with the 51. The tip stalls are still a big liability, even in arcade! It will stall in arcade and just hang there or do a couple flip flops. Totally out of control. I tried boom n zooming but its not fast enough to outrun a spit or 109. It still just won't turn tight enough, and if you try to force it-stall. You can't stay on anybodys tail long enough. I really don't understand what the hell the devs were thinking on a few things in this patch. Don't they fly there own products before dumping them out there? There is no American plane worth a damn in a dogfight. A 17 will get you more kills than a Mustang or Thunderbolt will. Spits, 109's and Hurri's are still the order of the day in Arcade.