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Originally Posted by Bulgarian
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Originally Posted by Kwiatek
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Originally Posted by Bearcat
The only problem with the 50s was the non API rounds.. the Mustang's 50s issue is not caused by the 50s but by the Mustang IMO.. If you run two QMs.. one with the P-40 and one with the Mustang.. especially the stock Ds.. any one.. you will find that you can do more damage with the P-40 from a sheer gunnery standpoint.. at least that s what I have found.. and that is primarily because the stock P-40 is a more stable platform than the stock P-51D.. It seems to me that often in the P-51 it is like trying to balance the plane on a pencil.. which makes for a less stable gun platform.
LOL.. I just saw that Kwiatek said the exact same thing... 
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As i said that just fixing error in Il2 P-51 FM data with lenght of plane from value "9.38" to RL data - "9.83" is enought for bring back stability of these plane and rise a lot of effectivness its 0,50 cal.
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Well,if he's taking unauthorised actions over the FM/DM files of this game,then he should know that it is not very appropriate to come over the official boards of the game developer with this type of information.
Also as such,he should know very well that the P-47 and P-51 are not the only planes who are experiencing flaws in their flight and damage models.
There are German,British,Japanese,Italian,etc planes who have such problems aswell,so this post of his does sound a bit one sided.
Also I'm very sure that Kwiatek knows,that the "hacked" version of the game is coming with unofficially reworked FM/DM's,who differ from the original ones.This is one of the hundred risks that the end user is taking when he chooses to use the broken code,and if this error is present in the P-51 FM,then it might be coming from there. /I talk from myself/experience in this paragraph/
Anyway,Daidalos Team knows very well what's right and what's not in this game and be sure that we're doing whatever we can to make this game better,and that this report will be checked.
EDIT:About the "Czech error" thing,I think that it's not good idea to use something that most people will not understand and also which cannot be well translated exactly to the language you're talking.Please take in account that the bigger part of DT are Czech.
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I kinda stayed away from this thread ... but I will just add.. Bulgarian I have the utmost respect for what you guys are doing and I look forward to whatever you guys come up with.. and I can't speak on German,Italian,Japanese or British AC much.. because I just don't fly them enough to speak with any kind of for lack of a better term authority.. but the Mustang I have been flying since day one... and I don't know code and I certainly can't do what you guys do.. and I don't know what the modders did exactly to the P-51.. I know what the said actions were but I don't know where to begin on the details.. all I know is that P-51s, at least the new NTs provided by the modders (from my understanding stock FMs haven't not been touched.. and from what I have seen flying them they haven't been) , fly much more stable than the stock ones.. and mind you.. I still cannot yank on the stick.. the elevator authority is still very pronounced, I'll still shed my wings if I try to pull out of a dive too hot and it is still very easy to go into a stall in a heartbeat... but the thing is more stable.. and that makes for more accuracy... You guys will do whatever Oleg wants.. and IMO that is a good thing.. and I will be on whatever you guys do like white on rice .. because IMO it is good stuff, but I
really really really hope that one day there comes some kind of meeting of the minds on some of these issues.. FC99 is the same cat that brought us the QMB+.. He has the same integrity, the same work ethic and his love for this sim and his pride in his work has not diminished one bit from when he was doing mod work at that other place just because he is now doing "official" modding( which is all this really is... even when Oleg & 1C were doing it themselves they were modifying the original released code but we call them patches because they are official) ... and I am certain that regardless to whatever disagreements you & DT may have with anyone or any groups that come here from that other side who have NOT joined or been accepted into DT, or the work they may be doing, that your commitment to the sim is just as valid and just as true as FC's is .. I just look forward to all the good work that can come from all this, but I really hope that a lot of good is not tossed out with some of the bad.. because of "differences"..
You guys here are dong great work.... and IMO it will only get better.. but there are some issues... with the stock planes that go beyond mere opinion and I hope that they do get addressed adequately.. In the meantime I'll just keep on flying in what is still IMO regardless to mods, stock, patched , unpatched from IL2 1.0 all the way up to 19464.09m the best WWII Combat Flight Simulator on the retail market to date.. with not even a close second.. I look forward to SoW and all the sim goodness that it will bring.. in the mean time I will be hanging on to every tidbit from here... and the stock sim will always be my starting point .. regardless to what mods I happen to like or dislike.. For me it alwasy starts with the stock sim.. and then will go from there to wherever the goodness takes me.