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sleepy 12-02-2008 12:44 AM

Totally fed up with Dryads
 
Dear devs,

If you want my future business, please PROPERLY balance troop strengths. What a Dryad can do is WAY beyond any other level 2 troops. As of now, I will not buy the expansion or any other sequel until proper balancing is done with troop strengths, the inequality between warrior vs magic, and the extremes of randomizations.

Sincerely.

Keneth 12-02-2008 01:08 AM

Dear devs,

Please don't listen to the idiot above, this is a single-player game, hence the players take full responsibility for exploiting it.

Sincerely, Ken

sleepy 12-02-2008 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keneth (Post 60513)
Dear devs,

Please don't listen to the idiot above, this is a single-player game, hence the players take full responsibility for exploiting it.

Sincerely, Ken

If you want to debate the issue by explaining why Dryad is not only the best level two unit around, but has powers far beyond anything else at that level, feel free to present a logical explanation other than "exploiting it".

If you have nothing more than name calling, kindly move on and stop trolling.

TemjinGold 12-02-2008 02:49 AM

It's not the dryad that's overpowered so much as Anga's Ruby. If that arty was out of the game, the problem would be solved.

Ryastar 12-02-2008 03:54 AM

Sleepy:

Keneth, I think, is, like myself and likely other people here, fed up with people coming to the discussion board to whine about how something is unbalanced (especially dryads). What he meant was, since this is a frickin single player game, no one should care if a unit is “unbalanced”, because if you don`t like it, don`t use it. They won't form that signifigant a proportion of the monsters you face anyways, so stop crying about it and move on. If you use them, yes their abilities are powerful. So are the abilities of other units. But their poor damage makes up for their powerful abilities.

On another note, grow up. Keneth was at worst mildly insulting, and personally, I found what he said hilarious.

On a further note, shut up. It`s pathetic that because of one unit that is “unbalanced” you come here to whine and say that you won`t be buying the sequel to this game and so on and so forth. Personally, if i was one of the devs. I wouldn`t care. Good frickin riddance.

Zhuangzi 12-02-2008 05:53 AM

You don't need Anga's Ruby to make full use of Dryads, IMO. But the combination is certainly deadly.

Don't want the expansion? Don't buy it then. Why should we care whether you buy it or not? :confused:

Lari 12-02-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryastar (Post 60520)
sleepy:

Keneth, i think, is, like myself and likely other people here, fed up with people coming to the discussion board to whine about how something is unbalanced (especially dryads). What he meant was, since this is a frickin single player game, no one should care if a unit is “unbalanced”, because if you don`t like it, don`t use it. They won't form that signifigant a proportion of the monsters you face anyways, so stop crying about it and move on. If you use them, yes their abilities are powerful. So are the abilities of other units. But their poor damage makes up for their powerful abilities.

On another note, grow up. Keneth was at worst mildly insulting, and personally, i found what he said hilarious.

On a further note, shut up. It`s pathetic that because of one unit that is “unbalanced” you come here to whine and say that you won`t be buying the sequel to this game and so on and so forth. Personally, if i was one of the devs. I wouldn`t care. Good frickin riddance.

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Gatts 12-02-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepy (Post 60511)
Dear devs,

If you want my future business, please PROPERLY balance troop strengths. What a Dryad can do is WAY beyond any other level 2 troops. As of now, I will not buy the expansion or any other sequel until proper balancing is done with troop strengths, the inequality between warrior vs magic, and the extremes of randomizations.

Sincerely.

I agree that good strategist can develope nearly bullet-proof way of winning relying on dryads, but:
1.) You can get them in Elven Island first - so who are your enemies?:
Undead (well you can still use some skills of dryad, but 4 undead units can use dryad as well of blood, so it counters it well)
2.) Units like dragons, cyclops, lvl 4,5 units, mind immune units - so you will benefit from only few of dryad bonuses
3.) even if dryad has a lot of HP compared to her Leadership, I doubt anyone ever used her as TANK unit
4.) Dryad is fast, but I doubt that for starting as first each round is dryad needed - there are plenty other units
5.) she is not mind immune as well
6.) she is only level 2 - many negative spells work very well on low level units
7.) her attack defence values are quite low - she will suffer much higher damage compared to other units with higher att/def values (more dryads you have, more you use)

All and all together - what you will have from all the dryad bonuses is flying fast unit with no retaliation that my heavily suffer from enemy attacks or abilities/spells - would morale not have +3 cap - and could morale bonus raise unlimitly - still dryad would not be good fight machine - speed and initiative are valuable to move freely on battlefield, but try escaping red dragon's fire ability, or armageddon spell, I very soon realized dryad is not worth ressurecting and soon I stopped hiring her at all.

If you feel you won't buy a game becouse you feel one unit is overpowered, be my guest.

Also I agree that "strenght" or "power" of units in single player games is out of debate, and when than not "I don't like this xy overpowered unit" but "pheeew, I found this xy unit which is very very strong compared to it's price ... so you can save money and win more battles... IMHO..."

If I feel the game is going too easy for me, even on impossible (never happend, with or w/o dryads, or other "overpowered" units or spells) I would just disband some units of my own army to feel the pain of hard battles... or (what would be my case :) ) I would enjoy clearing the most difficult battles which were pain in da ass few hours / days ago ... having that huge scary smile like Joker from Batman!

Now, seriously - let's look on multiplayer games where the balance is the main requirement - what players do first? search for the most overpowered unit and try to "build" strategy for this unit that would make it even more owerpoered - just to go online and kick ass...

So good job done : you have found overpowered unit in single player - enjoy! Would it be multiplayer, I would love to cross battle you and try your "overpowered" dryads with some "anti-dryad" strategy :) If I lose, I had great time, If I win I had double great time ...

In old HOMM 3 most players thought - Necro is overpowered - how many of them I've beaten to their great shockness
One collegue of mine prepared counter strategy (as I was known as Necro-slayer) and said to swap sides - I played for necros - I would lose for sure, but I found 3 artefacts that together created liches instead of poor skelettons - He run but he couldn't hide - was my artefact owerpowered? yep... but will I get this artefact always? nope... was his anti-necro strategy owerpowered? yep - but will he always win? nope... playing games IS about getting something owerpowered - if you want EQAUL game - play chess, seriously.

Keneth 12-02-2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepy (Post 60516)
If you have nothing more than name calling, kindly move on and stop trolling.

Pointless gripes are replied to with pointless trolls, welcome to the internet. :P

Lari 12-02-2008 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keneth (Post 60572)
Pointless gripes are replied to with pointless trolls, welcome to the internet. :P

Really, i have to meet you one day :)


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