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Question for Luthier

This is a basic question for Luthier, it's not intended to be a discussion thread or answered with assumptions from people who think they know what is going on. If you want to start another discussion, trolling, or flame war, go create your own thread.

Luthier, your answers are still somewhat vague on the future of the content in Cliffs Of Dover.
Please allow me to remind you of your comments over the last few weeks.

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Originally Posted by luthier (Post 465508)

Friday the 14th Development Update

The general plan is, after the milestone is submitted and accepted, we return to the now almost-final patch, cram

as much as we can into it, and make it our final Cliffs of Dover patch. The next time it will be updated is when

you install the sequel over it.

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Originally Posted by luthier (Post 465508)

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Luthier, will you continue to support CLOD independently with updates 'AFTER' the release of a sequel?

No. As I stated previously, this current patch, once pushed out to steam, will be our final update to Cliffs of

Dover proper. All future work will be done within the framework of the sequels.

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I know you stated the next CloD patch will be the last, so that means any fixes, advances and such into the game

engine that come from the sequel will not be translated at some time or another back into CloD? Will Clod be

completely abandoned in whatever state the final patch leaves it with no hope small updates, etc?

Why would you think that? We’ve never done that before, and I’ve always stated that our plans remain the same.

There were many issues in the original IL-2 in 2001. After a few updates to the original, Forgotten Battles was

released and there were no more updates to the original Il-2. That doesn’t mean it was abandoned however! You can

still play all of the original Il-2 content with 1946, all carried over and updated with the rest of the engine.

All of the answers here contradict eachother in some form or the other, so in order to clarify the situation I've identified the three most probable options. I realise your busy so I made it quick, an answer of A, B, or C is good enough.

A) Sequel will install ontop of Cliffs Of Dover (merge), allowing clod content to be used & updated with sequel.

B) Sequel will be stand-alone, but will include the content from clod allowing it to be used and updated with the rest of the engine.

C) Cliffs Of Dover and its content will be abandoned by Maddox Games, and/or handed to the community for further development.

Thanks & Regards.

All three answers are in agreement, so why the thread:confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 466270)

All three answers are in agreement, so why the thread:confused::confused:

Basically:

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Cos they WaNtz It NowZ!!!

Only MoDS hAzz thE AnSWers!!!!!!

Here come the mod threads...

Salute

Agree with original poster. The future of the CoD content is unclear.

Are all the maps and planes from CoD going to be included with BoM and in an updated form?

Or just the planes?

Or nothing?

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Can the sequel be merged with COD like the original il2 series and if it can will we get to test features that will be appearing in the sequel I.e. Weather etc.
This question Ilya! Please confirm that the sequel will be able to be merged with our current game as in all previous IL2 releases.
Definitely not planning to release any sequel features as add-ons for Cliffs of Dover, sorry.

It is clear that all the A/C and maps in CloD will be included in The Sequel " all carried over and updated with the rest of the engine". The only difference between A & B is that with B you don't need to already have CloD installed, and that would only be of interest to someone who doesn't currently have CloD. Is the OP trying to decide whether or not to purchase CloD?

I really don't see any contradiction in those 3 quotes.

Here's my understanding of it

A) Sequel will install ontop of Cliffs Of Dover (merge), allowing clod content to be used & updated with sequel.

This is true.

B) Sequel will be stand-alone,

This is true too. In other words the sequel will be a standalone product for those who have not purchased COD. If you have COD then A applies.

but will include the content from clod allowing it to be used and updated with the rest of the engine.

No. I don't think so.

C) Cliffs Of Dover and its content will be abandoned by Maddox Games, and/or handed to the community for further development.

No. But map making SDK will be released allowing community to make changes to COD map(s)

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Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 466363)

I really don't see any contradiction in those 3 quotes.

I think the situation is pretty simple. I'm surprised that people are still confused and uncertain about this.

A) Sequel will install ontop of Cliffs Of Dover (merge), allowing clod content to be used & updated with sequel.

This is true.

B) Sequel will be stand-alone,

This is true too. In other words the sequel will be a standalone product for those who have not purchased COD. If you have COD then A applies.

but will include the content from clod allowing it to be used and updated with the rest of the engine.

No. I don't think so.

C) Cliffs Of Dover and its content will be abandoned by Maddox Games, and/or handed to the community for further development.

No. But map making SDK will be released allowing community to make changes to COD map(s)

I asked Luthier specifically about this, assuming the sequel will be loaded over CoD. This was his reply:

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Luthier, you say that many core problems will be fixed by the sequel but there will only be one more CoD patch. The fact that the sequel can be loaded over CoD means that CoD will benefit from all of those improvements. These may be net code, LODs etc which we may have to wait for.
BUT! Unique CoD issues have only one more chance. This essentially means the map and the aircraft. Everything else would seem to be 'core' although I may have missed something.

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Luthier: As stated previously, it’s still my hope that we’ll release a map-making SDK allowing the community to change the existing map as they see fit.
Aircraft – as I wrote previously, they won’t be abandoned with the upcoming final patch. We are carrying everything over to the sequel, and they will get the same attention as new sequel aircraft and definitely benefit from our future efforts.

I see you have not an answer yet, so let me help.

At this time I cannot comment on the sequel.

My take is.....When you buy the Sequel you will not need COD as all COD's content will be in the sequel, but much improved because of the updated game engine, AI, GUI, etc etc. Will it be improved enough to sell is another question, as people won't buy without doing their due diligence this time.