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Ivan Fooker 06-05-2011 07:25 PM

starting procedure Bf109
 
I get my 109 properly started.
Tailwheel locked, flaps at 15°,PP at 12h, full throttle,tail lifting...
Everything works fine up to around 200-220km/h then the plane fall over its prop (Ringelpietz) ,like if i kick full brake.

I ve no clue what i am doing wrong here.
A 10000 starts in Il2 went perfect past years.
But for the sake of god, i am not able to get the plane correc into air...

Any ideas?

Edit: After recording my attempts i noticed my prop hits the airstrip ,what then leads to a Ringelpietz.

1./JG2_Miller 06-05-2011 09:03 PM

Try to set trim to 6-8 and lift at about 180 km/h. I always set it to 8 and slightly pull back my stick. Then the plane will do the rest and you just have to adjust your trim.

Binnies 06-05-2011 10:45 PM

In short; Take off earlier.
Usually I set trim to 1 or 2 and I take off at 200Km/h but you need to pull the stick back a little or you"ll hit the ground like you're describing.

VO101_Tom 06-05-2011 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivan Fooker (Post 293909)
I get my 109 properly started.
...
Any ideas?

Flat. Bf 109 operating limits (cod manual aroung p.90): vmax on ground: 220 km/h
(Take of flap is 20° - 4 full turn with flap wheel)

Warhound 06-05-2011 11:20 PM

Think it's a tire that blows and digs into the ground, hard to check in fullreal.
Regardless taking off before 200KPH prevents the issue from occuring. :-P

Bobb4 06-06-2011 08:39 AM

I have recorded several tracks with a 110 and had similiar problems.
The tyres do burst, especially on a concrete strip. You should find you get further on a grass strip but it will do the same eventually.
It is easy to test and i am sure it is modelled according to heat friction.
I suggest getting airborne earlier. I have no idea if the problem is realistic or not though?

Porsche 06-08-2011 04:08 AM

I was having the same issue and I found that I have to reverse my breaks. I use a pedal set and my breaks were on without me realizing it. Once I reversed the settings I have not had an issue. Hope this helps.

Ivan Fooker 06-09-2011 09:38 AM

Thanx for all your input.
Ya really presume the tire is bursting?:confused::-P
I thought it would be the prop hitting the strip, although i couldnt imagine it to be that long.

Take off at around 180km/h is not much, even if you got a bomb below.
Gonna test it, thx again!


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