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vonklinkerhofen 08-20-2009 06:24 AM

PS3 Demo today???
 
On the Live Il-2 Demo Broadcast Video, the guy says that the demo for PS3 will come out today. Will this happen????

I am so f***ing out of my mind excited for this that I almost skipped work today!!!

Com on! Give it to us!!! :grin:

Irishmandkg 08-20-2009 06:32 AM

yep the demo comes out today on the psn.

Jasta 6 08-20-2009 06:32 AM

Yes, today. Patience, grasshopper.

vonklinkerhofen 08-20-2009 06:42 AM

KNALL! - as we say it in Norway! Too much waiting isn't good for an old man like myself... :-)

hetsar 08-20-2009 06:57 AM

Sweet i Cant Wait!!!:-P

blindAngle 08-20-2009 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonklinkerhofen (Post 91518)
KNALL! - as we say it in Norway! Too much waiting isn't good for an old man like myself... :-)

Fantastisk - as we say in Denmark :-)

vonklinkerhofen 08-20-2009 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindAngle (Post 91525)
Fantastisk - as we say in Denmark :-)

Pissefedt!

For some reason, it doesn's seem to be too many Norwegian players on this game...

Buggins 08-20-2009 09:19 AM

It's nearly Friday here in NZ and still no demo.!

DH1979 08-20-2009 11:13 AM

BOP demo confirmed on the EU playstation blog for today. I will be playin this game at last in a couple hours 8 )

Riceball 08-20-2009 11:29 AM

I feel for you guys. If the demo had been on PS3 only for this long, I may have have done some bad things just to afford one. :grin:

Now that there has finally been a price drop, I might have to get one for Metal Gear and God of War III.

lestat8601 08-20-2009 11:38 AM

Just a few more hours..!
YES YES YES! :grin:

Smudgyboy 08-20-2009 12:06 PM

...going to be a made rush then, wonder if the servers will cope!

vonklinkerhofen 08-20-2009 12:07 PM

Guys, please let me know when the demo is out! (I will be @ work 'till laaaate) :-(

Danny M NL 08-20-2009 12:08 PM

hey smudgyboy, is that a top-flite FW190D9 in your avatar pic?

edit: just saw your signature, thinking of a kyosho fw190 now...

DH1979 08-20-2009 12:14 PM

jus a little tip 4 those who want 2 download psn demo a little earlier. the demo will not show up straight away in the latest section even though its been uploaded 2 store, but if you do search a-z it will show up obviously in the 'i' section. jus means you get it say 30 mins early & beat the mad download rush as its a fairly big store update 2day for psn. Updates around 4-6 gmt

Malarkey32 08-20-2009 02:51 PM

so is it coming to the states as well today?

timuss 08-20-2009 03:21 PM

Really looking forward to this i can't wait.

trk29 08-20-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malarkey32 (Post 91642)
so is it coming to the states as well today?

Yes!

blindAngle 08-20-2009 04:07 PM

Am I the only one who cant sign in to the Playstation Network?
Im constantly getting 80710092 errors

timuss 08-20-2009 04:08 PM

Maybe the store's being updated?

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 08-20-2009 04:11 PM

Usually updated before 5pm GMT or on the bell.

They're 10 valubale minutes late! :|

BadByte 08-20-2009 04:12 PM

KONGE!

taking ages to download =|

Jazzy Jase 08-20-2009 04:17 PM

I can't see the demo on the store. :(

blindAngle 08-20-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzy Jase (Post 91660)
I can't see the demo on the store. :(

Nither can I.

P-51 08-20-2009 04:19 PM

:grin: downloading now

blindAngle 08-20-2009 04:19 PM

Try searching for it. That just worked for me!. Searched for "Sturmovik" :)

9% done. Its a biiiiiig download. Well... might as well go do the dishes *sigh*.

(Cant wait. Woohooooo!)

Empi666 08-20-2009 04:21 PM

For people in the USA. I read that the updates happen @2pm west coast.

I think I'm feeling sick and have to leave work... Cough cough.

xNikex 08-20-2009 04:21 PM

Please tell me what the third plane is after you recover from the shock.:-P

Danny M NL 08-20-2009 04:23 PM

1mb/s here, still taking 1700 seconds though...

I wonder what they added in this demo that makes it different from the 360 version, 500MB of data is quite alot, and I doubt that some different coding and shader techniques, and one extra plane add 500 MB of data, perhaps higher res textures? uncompressed sound data? one can only guess...

Jazzy Jase 08-20-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindAngle (Post 91664)
Try searching for it. That just worked for me!. Searched for "Sturmovik" :)

9% done. Its a biiiiiig download. Well... might as well go do the dishes *sigh*.

(Cant wait. Woohooooo!)

Search worked. Thanks!!!! :grin:

xNikex 08-20-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empi666 (Post 91665)
For people in the USA. I read that the updates happen @2pm west coast.

I think I'm feeling sick and have to leave work... Cough cough.

I plan on being sick on the eighth.:-P

timuss 08-20-2009 04:27 PM

Sweet downloading now, its going to take ages big file size though.

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 08-20-2009 04:27 PM

1.7GB :o

blindAngle 08-20-2009 04:29 PM

I've just changed the mood on my portable ID to "Ekstatisk" (danish for "ecstatic").
Though that does leave me with a bit of af problem... what should I set to on Sep. 4??

timuss 08-20-2009 04:33 PM

Curse my crappy connection only on 4% its going to take me ages to download.

Jazzy Jase 08-20-2009 04:35 PM

I love my cable connection... 44% already!

Empi666 08-20-2009 04:39 PM

Does anyone know if the thrustmaster HOTAS is carried by any stores in the US? Gamestop? Frys electronics?

I held off on getting one until I knew for sure it was coming out.

Now its out and I need a stick!

timuss 08-20-2009 04:49 PM

17% = (

irrelevant 08-20-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empi666 (Post 91678)
Does anyone know if the thrustmaster HOTAS is carried by any stores in the US? Gamestop? Frys electronics?

I held off on getting one until I knew for sure it was coming out.

Now its out and I need a stick!

Online is your best bet. I purchased one from buy.com and it arrived quickly. There are other sites that offer the stick, as well. :cool:

The_Goalie_94 08-20-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timuss (Post 91675)
Curse my crappy connection only on 4% its going to take me ages to download.

Love my XBOX, its %110 a few weeks ago :P

Dubbedinenglish 08-20-2009 05:13 PM

Anyone know what the third plane is?

Graham85 08-20-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro (Post 91672)
1.7GB :o

1% there:|

The_Goalie_94 08-20-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish (Post 91686)
Anyone know what the third plane is?

OMG, theirs a third !!!!!!

The Few 08-20-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish (Post 91686)
Anyone know what the third plane is?

I'm banking on the rumored whimsical unicorn that blows rainbows out its @ss and annihilates its enemies with mind bullets. Seriously. That or a Liger. ;)

Jazzy Jase 08-20-2009 05:27 PM

I'm not convinced there is a 3rd plane. The missions and training are all the same.

There is a couple of different control layouts though, which should please some.

Haven't got time to do a thorough comparison with the 360 version right now, but screen tearing seems noticeable on the PS3 version. And for some reason the surround sound seems more noticeable on the PS3.

Danny M NL 08-20-2009 06:12 PM

differences between PS3 and 360 demo:

-screen tearing on PS3, not on 360.
-PS3 seems to run at a lower resolution than the 360 version.
-It seems there's less anti-alias on the PS3 version.
-No slow-downs when flying through smoke on the PS3 version, lots of slow-down on the 360 version.
-PS3 version seems to have a slightly lower fps.


Still buying the PS3 version though.

manintrees 08-20-2009 06:26 PM

What is screen tearing?

guiltyspark 08-20-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manintrees (Post 91702)
What is screen tearing?

possibly the worst thing that can happen to a flying game

Pyquila 08-20-2009 06:33 PM

Screen tearing is where two (rendered) frames more of less colide with eachother. It's not that you actually see two screen badly stitched together. But it just feels less smooth.

For the whole technical explanation see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing

Maybe if you are like 15 and on a dozen Red Bulls you will actually see where it all goes wrong. For my after a day of work it just feels less smooth.

Desode 08-20-2009 06:49 PM

Thats strange I didn't have any screen tearing at all. Maybe you should re download it and see what happens ? Are you use a HD tv and is it 120 hertz screen refresh rate ? Are you using a HDMI cable ?
DESODE

trk29 08-20-2009 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desode (Post 91711)
Thats strange I didn't have any screen tearing at all. Maybe you should re download it and see what happens ? Are you use a HD tv and is it 120 hertz screen refresh rate ? Are you using a HDMI cable ?
DESODE

Desode,
What is the resolution?

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 08-20-2009 07:11 PM

I noticed some really bad tearing in the first few seconds of the Dover mission but not much after.

Also the different control layouts don't seem to appear. You can toggle between them but I assume the controller icon is supposed to appear showing you the layout and it doesn't.

Anyway it's awesome so far.

Desode 08-20-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 91712)
Desode,
What is the resolution?

I'm running 1080.

trk29 08-20-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desode (Post 91721)
I'm running 1080.

Upscaled?

riflelord 08-20-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonklinkerhofen (Post 91514)
On the Live Il-2 Demo Broadcast Video, the guy says that the demo for PS3 will come out today. Will this happen????

I am so f***ing out of my mind excited for this that I almost skipped work today!!!

Com on! Give it to us!!! :grin:

it out today darn i'ev got sign in issues with my ps3 nooooooooooo!!!!

Jazzy Jase 08-20-2009 07:34 PM

Well I definitely prefer the 360 version. The tearing on the PS3 doesn't really bother me, but for whatever reason the 360 version just seems smoother and there seems to be less blurr.

trk29 08-20-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzy Jase (Post 91726)
Well I definitely prefer the 360 version. The tearing on the PS3 doesn't really bother me, but for whatever reason the 360 version just seems smoother and there seems to be less blurr.

Blurr? It doesn't look like HAWX does it?

SeaCat 08-20-2009 08:04 PM

Now available on the US East Coast! Search for all titles by name, go to the letter I. Bada bing!

Hakkifan 08-20-2009 08:05 PM

Am I the only one in the US that cant find the demo on PSN?:(



NVM. Thanks Seacat.

Jazzy Jase 08-20-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 91731)
Blurr? It doesn't look like HAWX does it?

Never played Hawx, but if you get near the ground and turn, the ground blurs quite a bit.

kribensis67 08-20-2009 08:27 PM

30 minuted download for me and well worth the wait, no tearing on my PS3 seen yet.

What a fantastic demo, it's about time a decent flight sim was produced so well done to Anton and the rest of the team for delivering a quality product. Cheers!!

Anton Yudintsev 08-20-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny M NL (Post 91696)
-PS3 seems to run at a lower resolution than the 360 version.
-It seems there's less anti-alias on the PS3 version.

Bullshit.

Danny M NL 08-20-2009 09:00 PM

whoa anton, chill down, not ripping on you guys or the game, just saying what I've noticed so far. I played the game on my PS3 and on my HDTV, and played the 360 demo at a friends house and on his HDTV. to me it seemed as if the PS3 version was a wee bit blurrier, hence my assumption that it ran at a lower resolution, like a lot of other multiplatform games. now I stand corrected.

Anton Yudintsev 08-20-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny M NL (Post 91747)
whoa anton, chill down, not ripping on you guys or the game, just saying what I've noticed so far. I played the game on my PS3 and on my HDTV, and played the 360 demo at a friends house and on his HDTV. to me it seemed as if the PS3 version was a wee bit blurrier, hence my assumption that it ran at a lower resolution, like a lot of other multiplatform games. now I stand corrected.

Do not 'assume' and 'notice' something which is measurable.

You can't 'notice' that AA level or resolution are different, because they are not.
I am sure that can be prooved on a static conditions, by screenshots, but I do not have neither time, nor desire to proove something, what I know is true for sure.

I can't really say that grass is greener or darker on one platform or other - that's part of rendering, chip, console configurations and personal impression as well. You can notice anything yow want here.
But that's not the case for resolution/AA level.
They are the same, period.

Hakkifan 08-20-2009 09:56 PM

Anyone know how to set up the controls to get a Saitek X52 to work right?
I can get it to work ingame but the rudder is the throttle and vise versa.

SeaCat 08-20-2009 11:14 PM

Demo's awesome! As for the "third plane", I don't believe that's in the demo, there's an extra plane for PS3 in the full release. I can't wait for multiplayer. :)

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 08-20-2009 11:23 PM

Could someone please point me in the direction of a tips&tricks thread for sim mode?

guiltyspark 08-20-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro (Post 91813)
Could someone please point me in the direction of a tips&tricks thread for sim mode?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8736

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 08-20-2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 91815)

Many thanks. :)

Pup 08-21-2009 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakkifan (Post 91762)
Anyone know how to set up the controls to get a Saitek X52 to work right?
I can get it to work ingame but the rudder is the throttle and vise versa.

I've got a Saitek Cyborg Evo, and I've got the same problem. Rudder and throttle are the wrong way round, and the trigger button changes the cockpit view. Pitch and roll were fine though, as you would expect.. and the hat switch triggered look around in both thrustmaster modes.

Essentially though the control setups are designed for Trustmasters, I just hope they see fit to add joystick configuration so that people with other makes of joystick can make use of them.

Dubbedinenglish 08-21-2009 03:14 AM

Really enjoy flying in this game. Much appreciation to the devs for capturing the feeling of being alone in the sky in fighter, surrounded by an air battle.

Though the picture was a bit bright for my setting and the game feels like it opens up much better with the sensitivity at half rather than full. Love the detail and this most definitely assured me getting this awesome game

BadByte 08-21-2009 03:31 AM

One bit I didnt like was that the cockpit view would recenter to the gunsight when trying to land. I would like to have speed and altiude, climb/sink meters in view in that phase. Re-adjusting the view could quickly reduce engine power when the intent was to lower the view. Minior gripe tho.

Realistic mode was quite hard, I got my behind kicked by a Stuka, oh the shame. Getting "out-dogfighted" by a dive bomber, I kept stalling/spinning out of controll.

Dubbedinenglish 08-21-2009 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadByte (Post 91860)
One bit I didnt like was that the cockpit view would recenter to the gunsight when trying to land. I would like to have speed and altiude, climb/sink meters in view in that phase. Re-adjusting the view could quickly reduce engine power when the intent was to lower the view. Minior gripe tho.

Realistic mode was quite hard, I got my behind kicked by a Stuka, oh the shame. Getting "out-dogfighted" by a dive bomber, I kept stalling/spinning out of controll.

The first time I came up on a heavy bomber, I immediately took some rounds into my engine and the canopy got covered in oil...That was a wake up call.

GabeFan 08-21-2009 04:36 AM

Just finished downloading and playing the demo on my PS3.

Awesome job Anton! Thanks to you and your development team! The demo is wonderful. I can't believe there is a WW2 flight game of this high quality on a console!!! I will be buying BoP on the day of it's release....

vonklinkerhofen 08-21-2009 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadByte (Post 91659)
KONGE!

taking ages to download =|

Jaaaa!

I got my first kills this morning!!! f***ing great!

merro 08-21-2009 06:54 AM

Hello to all of you, i just have to post my impression of the demo, other then that i will be mostly lurking around.
PS: Don´t mind my spelling i am german.

Graphic:
Looking great, the view, overall look of the game, even close to the ground, the detail is unbelievable for a console game.
1080p upscaling on the ps3, there are not many games out there that run this resolution.
I did not notice any frame drops at all.
The visuell effects are breathtaking. Oil on the cockpit window, smoke trails from planes, wow. Great job to the devs!
Downside:
Shadows look very ugly sometimes in cockpit view. This seems to be a ps3 problem, since a lot of games suffer from edgy looking shadows.

Tearing: There is some noticable tearing going on, esp. when you use the freelook in cockpit.
I play on a 42" with a high quality HDMI Cabel, so its a game problem.
Hope this is fixed in the final game, very disturbing.

Sound: Fantastic, the 5.1 is really adding to a intense battle experience

Gameplay: I will skip arcade mode and get straight to realism.
The game gets here allready very challenging.
Playing with a pad starts to give you a hard time.

I could not find a way to change the button layout of the controller, hope this is possible in the final game. The way the button layout is right now, is not optimal.
But i got my flightstick just ordered for this game.

Sim Mode. This is where its happening. Wow, it actually feels like flying.
I really crashed more then a few times in this mode, but it is so rewarding if you manage to controll the plane, and don´t constantly stall (which happens more then enough- i just suck!).
It is very hard to spot targets, i was busy checking the map and my surroundings.
I really got a feeling to be part of a battle going on around me in the skys.
Awesome!
Thanks to the devs for finally having the guts to bring out a game which feels like a flight simulator.
I know that PC Gaming offers more (i been playing flight sims since my days with the C64), but this is as close as it gets.
Great job to the devs, i hope this sells, since many people don´t even know about this game!
Promo here was/is not good, thats sad. Hope people get into the game through downloading the demo.

PS: Thx for bringing Cockpit Views for german planes in future DL.

Again thank you thank you thank you, hope it sells a lot!

shackenb 08-21-2009 08:05 AM

Guys,

I read this forum for a while and I waited for BoP since I heared the first announcements, I watched every video and now I have to say:

Thank you Anton! BoP is a manifestation for me on the PS3. After 30 years of computer and console playing (with some timeout), this is what I really dreamed of. Historically correct as possible, it feels right, it looks awesome, realistic and the demo was jaw dropping. Additionaly it is playable quite easy in arcade to begin with and not to loose the fun in the first minute.

No I can´t wait until the 4th of september and been wondering where I can find the time to play.

Thank you guys!

Stefan

monyetension 08-21-2009 08:07 AM

IL-2 Strumovik: Birds of Prey
 
Hello dear dear Anton...

I've finally DL da demo & play over it, the demo was totally GREAT!!!

Environment, plane, effect, soundtrack, sound effect was way superb!!!

Plus you've done one Hell of Masterpiece KUDOS!!!!

I tell you what event NamcoBandai didn't had this kind of pioneering in these show... You guys really pop out my eyes...

Oh yea...juz 2 last things i believe not only me, but on behalf all of your fanz here wish for...

If in anyway you could let say whether in small chance please i mean do fix the Screen Tear Down...its do annoying me & ripping up the scenery...*seriously

controller DS3 button configuration setting, please enable it for custom
layout...

if my request was has been too demand i'm so sorry for my noobness...

Cheers

monyetension
Wing Commander
LYN Pacific Squadron

vonklinkerhofen 08-21-2009 08:49 AM

Dear Anton,

I just wanted to join the rejoicement by the other guys!

Anton, you and the crew did a marvellous job in creating this masterpiece.

For us who love WW2 planes and history, this is simply fantastic!

I just had time to play a little last night and I got up early this morning (before work) but I have followed the dev, this forum and waited for this game since the news broke. The sensation of pressing the 'start' button for the first time on this game was like celebrating x-mas when I was 5 years old!

May this game sell shitloads!!!

To all you aces out there: Tell all your friends about this game!

Thank you! :-)

torchedEARTH 08-21-2009 11:04 AM

It does look amazing.

The font size for the speed and height are a bit small and white on slightly less white at times is a nuisance. I don't want to fly upside down just so I can read it against the green fields of England! A nice white with black outline the size of the subtitles that appear on the right when the wingman talks to you would have been more useful.

Ok, gripe over. Everything else is just a delight.

I have only played arcade mode so far as I have only had an hour to play it in total, but I really like the controls and how they feel. Turning with that gentle nudge of rudder and the sights float over the target, a two second blast and it's on to the next target.

Bliss!

elneilios 08-21-2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torchedEARTH (Post 91912)
It does look amazing.

The font size for the speed and height are a bit small and white on slightly less white at times is a nuisance. I don't want to fly upside down just so I can read it against the green fields of England! A nice white with black outline the size of the subtitles that appear on the right when the wingman talks to you would have been more useful.

Ok, gripe over. Everything else is just a delight.

I have only played arcade mode so far as I have only had an hour to play it in total, but I really like the controls and how they feel. Turning with that gentle nudge of rudder and the sights float over the target, a two second blast and it's on to the next target.

Bliss!

+1 on the small and hard to read text. I do have an SDTV however and seem to have this problem on 90% of 360 games!

BadByte 08-21-2009 04:35 PM

Eurogamer had a good article about the issue a while back Standard Def: The Forgotten Generation

bboyneko 09-04-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakkifan (Post 91762)
Anyone know how to set up the controls to get a Saitek X52 to work right?
I can get it to work ingame but the rudder is the throttle and vise versa.

the same thing happens to me..I hope a upcoming patch allows us to modify controls a little. THen I could use my saitek x52


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