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NealCFI 07-29-2009 03:42 PM

P-51D cockpit view
 
It looks as though the cockpit for the P-51D is actually a P-47D cockpit(windshield, instrument panel, gunsight arrangement, etc...)

irrelevant 07-29-2009 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NealCFI (Post 84839)
It looks as though the cockpit for the P-51D is actually a P-47D cockpit(windshield, instrument panel, gunsight arrangement, etc...)

Say it ain't so! :(

guiltyspark 07-29-2009 03:47 PM

another thing i noticed was that the sights did not react to the movement of the plane (ie bob and sway when turning)

Skii 07-29-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NealCFI (Post 84839)
It looks as though the cockpit for the P-51D is actually a P-47D cockpit(windshield, instrument panel, gunsight arrangement, etc...)


Yeah I thought it looked odd in the screenshots posted. I think you are right.

Soviet Ace 07-29-2009 03:48 PM

http://www.militaryfactory.com/cockpits/imgs/p47.jpg
P-47D Cockpit

http://war.by-airforce.com/images/ar...1d-cockpit.jpg
P-51D Cockpit

irrelevant 07-30-2009 12:34 AM

For anyone who is currently playing the demo, can this be confirmed or denied? Is the P-51D cockpit inaccurate?

Spitfire23 07-30-2009 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 85095)
For anyone who is currently playing the demo, can this be confirmed or denied? Is the P-51D cockpit inaccurate?

Affirmative

irrelevant 07-30-2009 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire23 (Post 85098)
Affirmative

Thank you. Perhaps I should change my signature to a Spitfire. LOL.

Spitfire23 07-30-2009 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 85099)
Thank you. Perhaps I should change my signature to a Spitfire. LOL.

lol i wont stop you ;)

fuzzychickens 07-30-2009 01:55 AM

Yea, certainly a p47 cockpit in there.

Anton Yudintsev 07-30-2009 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 85095)
For anyone who is currently playing the demo, can this be confirmed or denied? Is the P-51D cockpit inaccurate?

We've used P47 cockpit instead.

versapak 07-30-2009 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 85130)
We've used P47 cockpit instead.

Just in the demo, or will the full game also have cockpit substitutions?

guiltyspark 07-30-2009 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 85130)
We've used P47 cockpit instead.

lol

Anton Yudintsev 07-30-2009 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by versapak (Post 85131)
Just in the demo, or will the full game also have cockpit substitutions?

I mean, unfortunately, in a full game also.
As for demo, it is obvious.

NealCFI 07-30-2009 02:37 AM

Will this be corrected?

guiltyspark 07-30-2009 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 85133)
I mean, unfortunately, in a full game also.
As for demo, it is obvious.

thats kinda disturbing.....

i mean....

its the p51 , kinda a prolific fighter plane and it features heavily in the campaign


i would understand subsituting some of the other planes , but the p51?

what happened?

Anton Yudintsev 07-30-2009 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 85136)
thats kinda disturbing.....

It is.

Quote:

what happened?
Long story.
There are certain inaccuracies in the game.
Wrong skin for Spit, wrong cockpit for P51 among them.
Not that we've made somekind mistake - we knew it, there were reasons for each of these issues. Some explanations are better, some are not so good.

One thing I can tell you for sure - we'll be more accurate in a future, despite any reasons.

Anton Yudintsev 07-30-2009 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NealCFI (Post 85135)
Will this be corrected?

Only as a part of potential DLC/Title Update.
Gold master can't be easily corrected.

irrelevant 07-30-2009 03:36 AM

Thanks for answering my questions (and PM), Anton. ;)

NealCFI 07-30-2009 04:52 AM

Yes, thanks for the information. Hopefully it will be corrected at some point in the future. I would think that correct cockpits for aircraft would be of some importance.

mcgee1516 07-30-2009 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NealCFI (Post 85155)
Yes, thanks for the information. Hopefully it will be corrected at some point in the future. I would think that correct cockpits for aircraft would be of some importance.

I second that.

David603 07-30-2009 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 85138)
Long story.

There are certain inaccuracies in the game.
Wrong skin for Spit, wrong cockpit for P51 among them.
Not that we've made somekind mistake - we knew it, there were reasons for each of these issues. Some explanations are better, some are not so good.

When I saw the Spitfire II I thought it was a Spitfire V because of the colour scheme. The Spitfire V was introduced before the colour scheme changed from green/brown to green/grey, so there is no reason why you would find a Spitfire II wearing that green/grey camo.

Skii 07-30-2009 08:08 AM

....bracing myself for a Bf109 cockpit in the Fw190 :!:

juz1 07-30-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skii (Post 85177)
....bracing myself for a Bf109 cockpit in the Fw190 :!:


....with cupholders
________
Mercury Monterey Picture

Buggins 07-30-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 85130)
We've used P47 cockpit instead.

Anton, please tell us why???

carbury 07-30-2009 10:24 AM

Whoua, P-51D with P-47 cockpit...Damned... as it's been already said P-51 is so important...why this plane ?
And Spit skin also...sad...I'am so much in love of this plane :(
Well, I think the Skin will not be really a problem. I'am sure you will fix it latter ;)
But My question to Anton is are they some problem like those one with other planes ?
I mean We will see the cockpit for a ME109 and Fw-190 or a Me-262 with Me-163 Cockpit ?? I hope no !
All others skin looks really good...so...just fix spit prob :) :)
Best regards and keep the good works
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philip.ed 07-30-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbury (Post 85225)
Whoua, P-51D with P-47 cockpit...Damned... as it's been already said P-51 is so important...why this plane ?
And Spit skin also...sad...I'am so much in love of this plane :(
Well, I think the Skin will not be really a problem. I'am sure you will fix it latter ;)
But My question to Anton is are they some problem like those one with other planes ?
I mean We will see the cockpit for a ME109 and Fw-190 or a Me-262 with Me-163 Cockpit ?? I hope no !
All others skin looks really good...so...just fix spit prob :) :)
Best regards and keep the good works
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It's no just the spit skin that's wrong...:rolleyes: 'Tis a shame though. I'm in no doubt that the gameplay is superb, but it's just the tiny little thing which us simmer notice...

carbury 07-30-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 85255)
It's no just the spit skin that's wrong...:rolleyes: 'Tis a shame though. I'm in no doubt that the gameplay is superb, but it's just the tiny little thing which us simmer notice...

Ok I need to test the full game to check the skins :)
But I am asking myself, Spit MK 2 had 2 20mm ? isnt'it from the MK V ?
I was thinking that the Spit from Battle of Britain was the MK 2 with eight machin gun isnt'it ? So maybe I am wrong, so much version...

Oh and one more time I ask this quiestion I can't find an answer anywhere, but is there an option to have limited ammo and fuel ? sorry for that

Thx !

++

versapak 07-30-2009 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbury (Post 85266)
Oh and one more time I ask this quiestion I can't find an answer anywhere, but is there an option to have limited ammo and fuel ? sorry for that

Thx !

++


Not in the campaign, but in single missions you can.

The campaign is meant to give the console audience the high action that they have come to expect from flying games like Ace Combat and HAWX, while the single missions are there to cater to the sim guys with limited resources and a more realistic pace.

carbury 07-30-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbury (Post 85266)
Ok I need to test the full game to check the skins :)
But I am asking myself, Spit MK 2 had 2 20mm ? isnt'it from the MK V ?
I was thinking that the Spit from Battle of Britain was the MK 2 with eight machin gun isnt'it ? So maybe I am wrong, so much version...

Oh and one more time I ask this quiestion I can't find an answer anywhere, but is there an option to have limited ammo and fuel ? sorry for that

Thx !

++

Well, I just have a looked and check the MK II. So Since the MK1b the Spit had 2 20mm and 4 303s. So some had the 8 303s and some 2 20mm with 4 303s. :)

But my last question is still without answer ;)
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carbury 07-30-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by versapak (Post 85270)
Not in the campaign, but in single missions you can.

The campaign is meant to give the console audience the high action that they have come to expect from flying games like Ace Combat and HAWX, while the single missions are there to cater to the sim guys with limited resources and a more realistic pace.

Oh okok ! Thank you very much for this answer !
Yeah I was scpetical on the way to finish a mission like the one in the Ardenne with only 10 rockets tu blown up all the tanks, 88 and train lol

thank you for this answer
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philip.ed 07-30-2009 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbury (Post 85266)
Ok I need to test the full game to check the skins :)
But I am asking myself, Spit MK 2 had 2 20mm ? isnt'it from the MK V ?
I was thinking that the Spit from Battle of Britain was the MK 2 with eight machin gun isnt'it ? So maybe I am wrong, so much version...

Oh and one more time I ask this quiestion I can't find an answer anywhere, but is there an option to have limited ammo and fuel ? sorry for that

Thx !

++

Your not wrong. Actually, it should be the mark 1; the mark 2 was released later.
It should be the mark 1 with 8 browning .303's
or....
It should be a mark 1b with 2 canons, not 2 canons and 4 .303's. Some might have still had the spaces on the wings for .303's, but they didn't carry them.

carbury 07-30-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 85303)
Your not wrong. Actually, it should be the mark 1; the mark 2 was released later.
It should be the mark 1 with 8 browning .303's
or....
It should be a mark 1b with 2 canons, not 2 canons and 4 .303's. Some might have still had the spaces on the wings for .303's, but they didn't carry them.

Ok Thank's for your answer, that what read on a website.
thanks ;)

philip.ed 07-30-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbury (Post 85308)
Ok Thank's for your answer, that what read on a website.
thanks ;)

No problem.

Jeevz 07-31-2009 05:53 PM

After flying it for awhile I'm beginning to wonder if we aren't flying a Jug in Mustang clothing.

It flys like a P47, it has a P47 cockpit and the mission fits a P47. Maybe the cockpit is messing with my head but to me it feels more like a P47 all around than it does a P51.

reynard11 07-31-2009 06:42 PM

Heh. I felt the same way too. :eek: About the flight characteristics, not the cockpit that is.

David603 07-31-2009 06:49 PM

Plane feels heavier than a P51 should too. I'm going to dig out Il2 1946 and play it with a 360 controller to see if this plane flys more like a P51 or a P47


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