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pstyle 06-30-2012 07:28 AM

Beta patch - starting the hurricane
 
Seems quite a few folks are having trouble with the hurri starting.

I am under the impression that, however, some people were able to get one airborne.

Please IF you were able to get one airborne, explain your start proceedure. And what variant it was, and whether it was online or offline.

PLEASE ONLY REPLY IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET ONE STARTED. We know the problem exists, so no need to have 100 stories from people who cuold not get one going.

Thanks.

AbortedMan 06-30-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstyle (Post 439664)
Seems quite a few folks are having trouble with the hurri starting.

I am under the impression that, however, some people were able to get one airborne.

Please IF you were able to get one airborne, explain your start proceedure.

PLEASE ONLY REPLY IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET ONE STARTED. We know the problem exists, so no need to have 100 stories from people who cuold not get one going.

Thanks.

Not gonna be that cut and dry...reports are saying online hurricane 100 oct does not start, offline hurricane 100 oct does.

pstyle 06-30-2012 07:44 AM

thanks abortedman, I've updated the OP slightly (it now asks for variant and whether or not player was online)

SlipBall 06-30-2012 07:44 AM

It was already running for me in FMB on mission start. I shut it down with the magneto and then restarted it no problem. Got airborne and then blew a head gasket:grin:

pupo162 06-30-2012 07:54 AM

you cnaeasely start it in QMB, probably becosue the engine starts Warm. but if the engine is cold i cant. Ive tried:

Pumping the hand pump, starting on the reserve fue ltank, movign around the throttle. Its probably a big bug and not a feature. Lets hope it doesnt take 2 months to fix.

FG28_Kodiak 06-30-2012 08:47 AM

I can start the british planes without a problem on singleplayer. But in multiplayer it's not possible. Seems there is a Problem.

Skoshi Tiger 06-30-2012 08:58 AM

The Pilot notes say "operate the priming pump to prine the suction and delivery pipes. This may be judged by a sudden increase in the resistance of the plunger."

Hmmm, last time I checked the Priming pump didn't work.

Osprey 06-30-2012 10:01 AM

Meaker couldn't start the damn crate either, I haven't tried.

Obviously testing doesn't include an online dedicated server......

Dano 06-30-2012 10:11 AM

I also cannot get the ROTOL to start offline, have not tried online.

senseispcc 06-30-2012 10:25 AM

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I was mistaken it is really impossible to start the Hurricane any type from cold I only could do it in the quyck mission where the engine is already started and then stopped and startted again...sorry.

dragon9 06-30-2012 11:33 AM

i can't start hurricanes online!

i do not play offline

also getting CTD's often now:confused:

il_corleone 06-30-2012 11:34 AM

hello , yesterday when the patch came, i was whit 2 guys in the ATAG triying to start the hurri, the trick is, Put it to the 25% trhottle and when is firing the pistons, back to 20% or 15% and then starts, its very Hard, i think its a bug, they need to put it well if they launch a hotfix

phoenix1963 06-30-2012 11:37 AM

Runninng at last
 
Just got it running on ATAG server.

The key seems to be getting the oil temperature up to about 26C. Then 19% throttle got it started.

Clearly, the oil temperature effects are overdone and need urgent fixing.

Thanks to [UK BW]Basha, 46_Gromic and others.

56RAF_phoenix

ATAG_Snapper 06-30-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il_corleone (Post 439780)
hello , yesterday when the patch came, i was whit 2 guys in the ATAG triying to start the hurri, the trick is, Put it to the 25% trhottle and when is firing the pistons, back to 20% or 15% and then starts, its very Hard, i think its a bug, they need to put it well if they launch a hotfix

Good input, Corleone. Will have to try that. Thanks!

EDIT: Thanks, Phoenix, too!

il_corleone 06-30-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix1963 (Post 439781)
Just got it running on ATAG server.

The key seems to be getting the oil temperature up to about 26C. Then 19% throttle got it started.

Clearly, the oil temperature effects are overdone and need urgent fixing.

Thanks to [UK BW]Basha, 46_Gromic and others.

56RAF_phoenix

sorry for my ignorance but, how we get the temperature up to 26?

macro 06-30-2012 12:46 PM

i got it running

it seem it will not start cold. set mixture rich, full course prop and approx 15% throttle. if you keep turning the engine over it will warm up (takes about 15 mins) to about 25-30C oil temp. then it will run for short bursts warming it further. when its warmed you can throttle up and take off. bugged but if you really want to fly it online you can do this. i cba so back to spit IIa :cool:

Basha 06-30-2012 02:56 PM

Thats the trick alright, be patient and keep banging away at it and eventually it will splutter into life...15 mins is about right.

Manu22 06-30-2012 09:07 PM

I start in multy 2 times, one in Rotol and one in 100octane. You need like it is explain upper. But keep your raditor closed until it satrt and let hjim 10-25 sec before to open just a bit the radiator. And try to play with your throttle to keep it in rotation. The reason why is if your radiator is closed at the begining, you will suck air that is not too cold. Because your mixture is rich at the startup procedure he will cool the ignition more because not all the fuel is burn. So if you keep it closed and after just a bit open to not let the motor choke, you will keep warmer air in the beginning of the start-up and warming procedure.

Buglord 07-01-2012 12:14 AM

I tried what you guys said and hey i can get it started now :)

Rangi 07-01-2012 04:02 AM

Yes can get it started with above procedure (offline), however the AI pilots dont seem to know how to do this and just sit on the runway. Some of them report their engines are dead and they are returning to base (even though they havnt moved at all).

holdenbj 07-01-2012 07:23 AM

I am with the AI "Some of them report their engines are dead and they are returning to base " . Not enough time in the day to spend pressing the "I" button for 15 minutes only to wobble down the runway and put it into the nearest tree and then have to start again. :oops: Do Admire the patients of those on the ATAG server for finding a solution to starting up in Hurricanes like this. It is also funny from the ground online with 2 or 3 hurricanes been relentlessly turned over, while the bombers are flying overhead.... :grin:

Flanker35M 07-02-2012 05:22 AM

S!

I tried Hurricane and Spitfire Mk.I and Mk.I_Oct on ATAG and could not for the life start them :( I really feel sorry for the guys flying them and hope this is fixed ASAP.

Codex 07-02-2012 08:54 AM

Maybe it's the AI's fault ....

http://youtu.be/-fAu2KF6KIA

holdenbj 07-02-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codex (Post 440495)
Maybe it's the AI's fault ....

http://youtu.be/-fAu2KF6KIA

@Codex: Thanks gave me a good chuckle at work :roll:

Redroach 07-02-2012 03:58 PM

It seems that ont the ATAG server, they have provided an "airfield" with an Airstart configuration for the 100-octanes, as a workaround. I tried it and it works - so if you want to fly your 100oct-Hurricane and if you don't take the airstart too bad, you can use this, for the time being.

ATAG_Snapper 07-02-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redroach (Post 440648)
It seems that ont the ATAG server, they have provided an "airfield" with an Airstart configuration for the 100-octanes, as a workaround. I tried it and it works - so if you want to fly your 100oct-Hurricane and if you don't take the airstart too bad, you can use this, for the time being.

Thanks for posting this, Redroach!

I tried it today, too, and it works fine. For anyone using this temporary "work around", be sure to have your throttle about half open when you spawn in as the start height is only about 3000 feet above the water. Plenty of room if you're ready for it; I had my throttle closed and dropped a few hundred feet before I woke up and took control! LOL


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