The Crystal Ball 2
 

Following on from the old Crystal Ball

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27712

Further discussions can take place here.

Where possible I will keep to the tradition of moving/collating all "where's the patch" questions, and development Q & A outside of the official Requests & Questions sticky.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28341


PS: Errrmm due to a technical error the threads been restarted (my bad)
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wheres the smiley with me looking at you with squinting eyes Alpha? :grin:

Couldn't you not also restart the forum????

:D :D :D :D :D

lol

Would love to, but my PM box would be filled with the conspiracy theorists getting paranoid.




Lets see what the weekend brings.


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Hopefully this crystal ball wont be so "murky"...maybe this weekend will bring something special?.....I hear good things come to those who wait or have patience :-P

Yep, the sequel..

Shouldn't that be "and" have patience? The waiting is usually forced on us.

I predict that once our performance has increased to a point when we can turn on the trees we'll have get some target marking/pathfinder aircraft (Tigermoth in a pinch or a flyable Ansen???) to markout our camoflaged targets hidden in the greenery. Will we need smoke markers for that or will people just use some of the smaller ordinance?

Im hoping to be able to fly a night mission in an He111 over London..with HOPE HOPE some searchlights murking around through the clouds! That would be cool!

Target markers, smoke or flare, or maybe some lamps placed in the shape of a "V" or arrow? I'll take any of them!

Trying to remain upbeat and not bow to the naysayers, but..the thought had raced through my mind for a minute, what if they really can't fix the graphics engine? Someone reassure me please ;)

The CTD due to the memmory leak happens after about 45 minutes. The reason (according to Lord Flashart in WWI) that they called pilots the "15 Minuters" was that, that was the life expectancy in the combat zone therefore CTD should not be an issue!

Is that reasuring enough? ;)

From BlackSix an update.
 

In case you missed in the Requests and Questions Thread.

Here's a list of things going on.

Original thread >> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...841#post398841

Post 1 >> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=179

Post 2 >> http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=180

Edited for those that complained about spam.

Now go read it all :)

Alpha, I hold you in high regard.
However, that looks like spam to me.

I think, it's about time Luthier weighs in?

Yeah, thanks Alpha, we know that thanks to Blacksix the Community -> Luthier flux of information for helping to solve the most urgent things we need is working, now if only worked in the other direction too.

If not, I wonder if this threads are just like the "Give me some "XXXXX" did that just happen" ideas" thread.

To help reduce the bitterness of my post: Note that I edited the foul words in the original title of that thread, so that Luthier won't be banned and can weight in :D

What we can expect for tomorrow BlackSix? Beta patch? Info? Screenshots, video or nothing?

Greetings

future of COD
 

Here is a link where i have read in the right panel some news for the future of our sim. Do you think we can trust or not all these informations and especially in a patch only at the end of june ?

http://www.bigwing.net/index.html

I think that page needs updating, prob means June last year.

Yep.

here's tomorrows update....

"working hard on patch, soon release"
"here is pics of IL2"

I nearly beleived it, Hopefully not the case at all. When the new patch is out is when I will order my brand new pc.. dont want to be dissapointed:eek:

But we can appreciate the fact that they were almost prophetic! :grin:

Stop being so optimistic :grin:

Looked plausible until you read this:

"New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support"

DX11?

Oh, not again!!!!!

Of course does the engine support DX11, it isn't used atm because the DX11 performance for the functions needed in this sim is less then optimal.

And that will probably not change with the new engine, afaik the problems were with the great drawing distances, which wont change.

Whoa there robtek....If you were reading the thread you would realize I was just stating what was on a website. I wasn't ranting. Gotta love the faithful around here, always looking for a fight. Since you bring it up, an engine that supports DX11 but DX11 can't be used, doesn't really support it now does it?

I hope you don`t have to order a new rig as we get an increase of 150% in FPS!
Buy a good book, makes the waiting shorter! ;-)

Salut!

Sorry for brewing up,

but then, it is not the engine, which causes the problems, but DX11 isn't able to perform well with such huge areas and drawing distances.

With smaller maps(FPS) or much less detail it should work.

:rolleyes:

Really...

No worries robtek...i'm sure it will be a justified response for me at some later date. :)

Wakey Wakey, Friday morning in Russia, any news?

Haven't been around much lately, too busy. No news I take it? I have high hopes for today: it's been two weeks since the 'very shortly' comment from Luthier and it seems like a fitting delay!

Abacadabra mayday friday hokus pokus hatch the match give us a...

Yes, it would be nice, a pleasant change, but in the meantime, Im collecting skins and repaints, and dreaming :)

seems that we dont get anything today...
 

just for your information guys, and that you can use your time for something else than hitting F5...
BlackSix just posted:"
Unofficial status at 14:45
1) I have no information about the patch
2) I have no instructions to prepare an Friday information update"

seems we neither get the patch, nor an update

Sigh...

unfortunately that's 1C's M.O. (method of operation)

I'm starting to think that relations have got so bad and the devs feel so p****d off with their customer base that even if the patch was ready it would stick in their throat for them to give it to us....:grin:

the same is going to happen when the time comes that they will ask our money for an expantion

might not be all bad, another possibility is:
- no information given to B6 for a friday update
- patch is very imminent and about to be released
- releasing the patch in the next few days (or even today) will shut up the "no friday update winers"

so we might be closer than some think with the patch :)

failing that, my eternal optimism might have reached its end, and i might need to hit some medicinal vodka to sooth the nerves

Ill just get back to my massive pipe bomb ive been making.

hope your right. i honestly just want to be proved wrong.

Definitely time for some medicine! Still have a few bottles of Spitfire ale that have been set aside for the release of this patch.:grin: Off to elevate and levitate.

must be another holiday.

In other news...

I've finally unplugged the HOTAS Warthog that has pointlessly been cluttering up my desk this last 3 months.

Thank god for battlefront's amazing Combat Missions :)

Thank goodness there's RoF!! Those Fokkers are everywhere! :D

weeks before, update about driveable Tanks and Sequel, last week no patch/update coz holidays, this weeks no patch/update coz we whine about a game that everyone can not play properly, what next week? no update ? update about sheeps or driveable ships? who knows :) lets see :-P

Really? In this day and age to even joke about this? Really?

You know, I kinda noticed last day that the updates needlesly build up expectations AND optimism. Now, when we did not get anything, I`m genuinely disappointed. Back in the days of no community manager, my optimism stayed always at the same level.

Or maybe they actually ran into some problems?Can`t really tell if they don`t say because they got it or because they failed again. Whatever the case, in my opinion saying that the revolutionary patch is due very shortly, did bring a negative result.

In fifteen days there`s anniversary of CloD.

I'm starting to think they are are maybe planning a one year anniversary patch? The European release date anniversary is in two weeks ;)

/mazex

Or maybe they are so tired of the crap here they decided to skip the beta patch and are testing it internally and will release a full one when they are satisfied with the results.

Maybe they finally realized that it is a waste of time to post anything here.

Agreed. Playing the new Commonwealth expansion module now. A software which for a nice change actually was released! Don't give a pixel about the wonder patch anymore. It either comes - or not.

Of course... or maybe the simply don't care about CloD anymore. They can fully work for BoM... :-)

Anyway I'm lurking here from long time but I've still to see the crap you're talking about. I only read the post of too many Xanax addicted posters.

And still I remember the banjo...

Careful manu, say anything even remotely close to the truth and the thread will be locked and deleted.

Still worth looking every second...

http://youtu.be/Zs56Mr9iFqQ

Maybe Luthier is going out fishing with Oleg thats why no news.. :))

Yawn:rolleyes:

Where did you read this post?

link please ...

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...=28174&page=83

post 825

I don't know the truth... the only Truth is that no poster here knows what's happening. Because they're hiding everything, and it seems they hiding it from B6 too.

It's only that I'm so tired to be treated as a child by the same guys who call for the mod.
One thing is having faith, being optimistic... but this is something different.

And mods: when you move, delete or anything like this you have to leave the motivation in the same thread. It's the difference between regulation and censorship. Thanks.

Yes... really

+1 on that JG! I'm having a ball with Combat Mission, just picked up the Commonwealth expansion which is well worth it.

As for CLOD I haven't played it for months after losing it with the awful AI and spinning 109's. Popped in here today hoping for some good news on progress and was amused to find that we're the ones in the 'doghouse'! :)

Something not quite right there methinks.

pipe bomb or pipe BONG?

The devs are not annoyed at the community, and neither are they in the position to postpone the patch to further annoy people.

The team needs our support to sustain the product, but at the same time they have no plans to cease work. I'm sure Luthier said before that they won't be going anywhere any time soon. View such comments in whatever way you like, but this is business and the team will be doing their best to meet expectations.

+1 to your optimism...
sometimes i really admire the view of some people like yours in such situations.
i really wish i could remain that calm and maintain a logical over view, but friday becomes more and more a synonym for disappointment for me...even if i try as hard as i can to avoid that.

This is Crystal Ball material... or are you one of the developers?

I've given mine, more than once, and what's the result after a year?

Hey guys:



They don't have to update weekly.

You are not entitled to anything.

You don't have the rights to ask.

You are not working there, you are not a lead on the team, therefor you don't have a say on anything.



They know better then you do even if they messed up their latest release.

They did update to bond the community and as a favor for you.

They don't have to put up with childish behavior on forums.

They were one of the last developers to update weekly and it may change.


Suggestions are not directions.


YOU have the right to buy or not to buy. That's about all the power you have.



Sorry but it's like that, life's a bitch. My 2 cents on the subject.

bunny?

Since YOU have bought their product YOU have the RIGHT to complain. And THEY have the DUTY to answer.

It only because we've spent 50€ for it... but think about a car sold in the same condition... do you see the line of lawyers out of the office?

philip.ed is just one from the pink glasses fraction.

The fraction who does not like questions... it's like a religious thing. Have faith!

:)

+1000,000,000

it would be great to see displayed the mods criteria on the front page, instead of hiding it behind vague PMs and such; like it or not dear mods, your recent sweeping sorties seem to be annoying more and more people in here by the day...

I hear the U.N. is discussing sending a peace-keeping force in to try to restore order, and prevent the situation escalating into full-blown civil war.

Who's annoyed and does it matter?
 

Considering some of Luthier's and BlackSix's posts, I'm quite sure that the devs are just as annoyed with the community as some in the community are with them. Its possible it could effect what they post in the forums, but at this point, what we post or the devs post in the forums will have very little effect on the outcome of the new series. It will cause a few people who read the forums to delay their purchase, but the devs have enough support from the IC publishers to continue work for atleast a few more months to get things moving in the right direction. At the end of the day its the final product that counts, if the finished product is good then the new IL-2 series will be successful. This next patch is critical, to the sims survival, it needs a considerable performance boost to allow integration of all the missing resource hungry features.

this is totally ridiculous. We are paying customers and no poor suppliants at the court of the king.

As you know as for everything important in the U.N. nothing will be decided

joke joke, but i got annoyed, i was given a ridiculous ban for 1 week because of added trifles, all amounting to a load of insignificance. this points system is load of bull imho..

True. Russia or China would probably use their veto :rolleyes:

Look, if everyone's so frustrated, why not jump on the ATAG server and pretend that every aircraft on the opposing team is your favourite target for complaint?

Or that any of the ground targets are the 1C offices?

Seems a better idea to me than sitting around here creating thread after thread of moaning.

;) You might want to consider editing that before THEY see it...they have eyes everywhere you know.

Seriously though, if not the UN, I think we at least need some kind of relationship counselling..Luthier never talks to us anymore...he is always distant and seems preoccupied...maybe there is another woman...?

This relationship is definitely on the rocks...

It's quite simple actually, fix all the major issues with CloD and I might consider buying the next expansion, if not then try to sell it to someone less educated/enlightened. Really nothing more to say about it, you treat your customers well and listen and respond to them and they will reward you with loyalty. If you start blaming the customers you should either A. Start reconsider your profession/line of work B. Take some kind of 101 PR course C. Give the customers what they are asking for.

Is this really new to MG?! Maybe it's a cultural barrier, maybe in Russia the customer is always wrong, I don't know. The customer is always right even when they are wrong, one has to be able to handle it like a professional, starting to "punish" people by withholding updates and such is childish and extremely unprofessional.

Maybe it's better though, that they are quiet because the updates are quite confusing and they use the word "soon" too much. I don't mind waiting for the patch but for heavens sake don't tell me it will be released "any day" when weeks or even months have passed, this is where I guess a lot of people get their frustration from. Other then that, good job B6! Don't let some people get under your skin. Just ignore them or they will just feed of your frustration.

lol great suggestion and i recommend it to everyone; already at it frequently these days

the problem with that is, that the 1c offices were clever enough to develop a secret protection shield which let the planes crash before they are able to pull the trigger:grin:

IMO the damage is already done with all these B6's "chief says there's no update". Poor guy.

Me and many others will not buy the sim at release.

i think if they had good news they would be extremely willing to tell. The pressure is high on them and they would love to give us something to cheer us up. They know they have to give results and of course they want to. They want to make everyone happy, because a happy customer makes them happy too. I think they still have some ugly problems they cant solve so far and most probably think its better to keep silent until there are good news.

i just think that this silence is not good at all for the relationship between the devs and the community.

+1000
Just what I was thinking. But I am to mad at the moment to write it in calm and respective form. So I'll just say that I agree.

I wont be buying it at release and maybee not at all, they seem to forget the ones who are upset are there bread and butter people who bought the game.

Keep treating us like sh!t and watch your sales decline. there 15 people in my squad with this game only 4 can play it, its not acceptable. we have been beyond patient.

This is the problem: if you have bad issues then tell us.. bad news are better than no news at all.

+1
best post i have read today....i was trying to type something similar, but deleted it again, as i wasnt able to write it without expressing my anger.

though i think that again after the words "soon" or "any day" they shouldnt be quiet at all..they just should tell us what problems they have.that would rebuild some trust and tighten the relationship between devs and community again.
they should give us some insight.

Thats basically right, no idea, maybe its because of those who dont think like you or its just the shame. I personally tend to do the same myself, it sucks to keep telling bad news, especially when the pressure to bring good news is high.

I'm not annoyed at all. I think the meltdown some people in here are having over a game is very entertaining.

Do you have a link to that post?

You have to understand that for some people a computergame is the most important thing in life after having a home and something to eat, and maybe sex, but for many thats already coming after the computergame ;)

Its certainly kept the forums lively.

Oh no! It's the opinion police! Here you go officer: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...790#post398790

I'm sure many people won't buy the sim at release, but most will eventually buy if it works.

I'm not annoyed at all, to be honest. Why? Simple!

1: My patience is infinite when it's a patch for a game I've bought as long as said game works (and CLoD works, at least for me). As long as I don't pay to play it, my patience knows no bounds.

2: My existence does not revolve around the next patch for CLoD.

3: Some of the comments on this forum is so far beyond entertaining that it's utterly hilarious to read the amount of rage that's going on.

Wow Chivas. Not sure where you went to business school, but it might be time for refresher course. Your saying that having 70% of your customers annoyed and questioning the quality of your product doesn't matter? I would guess that BOM will have 75% less pre-orders than COD had. Not a good business strategy if you ask me. With the shameful release of COD the best thing to do is damage control. The way you do that is good customer relations. What do we get? Luthier thinks we should be grateful that he is supporting the sim 7 months after release. Huh? They need to remember, we rely on them for a fun hobby, they rely on us to get a paycheck. See the difference of importance there?

When was il2 "finished"? CoD may not be finished for another 10 years as well or at least I hope so.

I am pretty sure Silent Hunter5 is "finished".

I used to love flight sim comunity, always talking about ww2 and cool planes, pc performance and flight training, now its just a persistant "are we there yet" from 40 year olds, I dont get it.

Im sure the devs have had there fill:rolleyes:

+1 :-)