Birds of Steel Official Website
 

http://www.birdsofsteel.com/en/

The full list of American planes is live under the game section, with the other countries sure to follow.

hey bud!

millions thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!

Good find!!!

Cheers fella.

NO P47!!!

Thats a bit of a suprise.

Still many of planes to choose from for the USA, but still shocked that the P47 isnt included....

Maybe it will be in the Great Britain or USSR air force...

Olife!!

At least they have your beloved Hellcat!! :D

And also for those that wanted it, the P38 :)





LET ME SEE THE RAF LIST!!!! I want to see my Hurricane!! And the Mossie... and of course the LANC!!!


This game i cannot wait for.

hey bro!!!

YEEEAAAH!!!!!!!!!!BANZAI!!!!!!!MY LOVELY HELLCAT!!!!!!!!VERY COOL!!!!
and in ROYAL NAVY markings too!!!!

no doubts your lovely HURRICANE WILL BE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can wait too for this game!

see u
friendly
olife

that is surprising! i would have thought it would have been included too. maybe its an add on like in BoP...to be bought or earned....i hope.

Anton did say they were still updating the list somewhat once or twice a week if poss, so theirs still chance the P47 will be added :)

We can't be to picky though, what a good list it is so far!!

A B24!!!

Always loved that bomber more than the B17!!

The B-24 was a great airplane with a large payload and tremendous range, but it was very tough to handle. I'll be curious to see how the flight models differ between the B-17, which was in comparison very easy to fly, and the B-24. And yes I too am keeping my fingers crossed for the Jug :-P

Yeah the website list is incomplete. The Japanise "Predator boy" video shows the P-47D in the US section in USAAF markings. Also missing from the website is the B-17G, PBY5 and PBY-5a Catalina, OS2U-1 and OS2U-3 Kingfisher. Interestingly the versions of P-39 seem to have changed since the version of BoS in the video. P-39Q-5 is in both but the P-39N-0 that was in Wings of prey aswell has been removed and replaced by the P-39Q-15 and the USAAF P-39K-1 added aswell. (Gaijin like their P-39s ;) )

The Japanese planes are now out....

http://www.birdsofsteel.com/en/game/planes/

Strange that they chose Dec. 7 to release the Japanese plane list.

yeah....guess it was the first time americans saw jap planes.....sad to say it wasnt with the excitement we have.

We will have our battle of Midway in the game, gentlemen!

Anton!! Welcome back stranger. Hope things are going well with the game. Great job you guys are doing.

+1

Welcome back :)


Very good. Zero pilots are spoiled for choice lol. Just checked the Japanise Konami video again and it seems this is the full list of Japanise planes, unlike the US list.

that should be one hell of a battle to play! i am excited by everything that comes out about the game so far.

seems lke the list we had so far was pretty spot on..at least with the japs and US so far..

I hope the AI is fixed. I haven't played Birds/Wings SP much since the release. Started replaying it on PC recently, and it's maddening. I actually instantly got killed three times in a row from respawn, and of course the original kill was just as unfair.

Nothing worse than getting in an aerial battle, with friendlies in the air, turning aorund, and seeing practically all the enemy planes on your tail. :-x

welcome!and great job!

maybe an tbd devastator torpedo plane in a future dlc?
exuse me ,maybe i want too much but when i see the super quality of this future game...i permit me to want more and more...oups!!

thx again!!!

6 new screenshots
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...4918224&type=3

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...14917767_n.jpg

Still can't wait to take the P-38 for a spin. I'm still getting a kick out of BF3 (four service stars and more than 20 hours in jets) and I'm giving Ace Combat Assault Horizon a try, but Birds of Steel is just too far away.

ACAH isn't bad and I was able to buy into the story and intensity... for the first couple missions. The rest of the game doesn't come close to matching the intensity of the first mission and at times it substitutes challenge for difficulty, which can be very frustrating, and other times it's just boring. DFM mode isn't as bad as I initially thought and is a pretty intense way of conveying speed and motion. The helicopter missions are terrible. Terrible flight model (if it can be called that) and terrible camera.

I posted earlier on the gaijin forum my BoS preliminary list of British and Australian planes that I'm expecting to be confirmed on the website soon, forgot to post it here too so here it is now. Only 3 aircraft that i'm unsure of the mk so I put a question mark.

GB

fighter
Gladiator mkII
Hurricane mkI
Hurricane mkII
Spitfire mkI
Spitfire mkII
Spitfire mkVb
Spitfire mkVc
Spitfire mkIX
Spitfire mkXVI
Mustang mkIa (GB commissioned)
Tempest mkV

attack/bomber
Swordfish mkI
Blenheim mkIV
Beaufighter mkVI?
Beaufighter mkX
Mosquito FB mkVI
Beaufort mkI?
Lancaster mkIII




AUS

fighter
Boomerang mkI
Boomerang mkII

trainer/general purpose
Wirraway mkIII?

attack/bomber
DAP Beaufighter mk21

Ruhr
 

For all the people thinking that there might not be Lancaster bombers...... there is! go on the mission sections the the official site and there is a mission called Ruhr and the dam busters attacked dams in the Ruhr area........ in lancasters!!!

Bouncing bombs FTW!

The Ruhr recevied quite a bit more than just a few bouncing bombs in WWII so that doesn't garentee you will be bombing the dams at all. The Lancaster is in the game (see list ubove) but whether its the normal B mkIII or the bouncing bomb moddified B mkIII Special is unknown. Id prefer it to be the regular version as the Special is a one trick pony, it would be useless in a online Strike game for example.

Agree it's limited if it's a Upkeep 'Special' save for if they include the later Tallboy and Grand Slam 'Specials' used by 9 and 617 Sqns in which case bring them on!
That all said its been well documented here and Gaijen forum that strikes would ideally include a number of differing targets to hit- tanks, trains, viaducts, troop columns and ships to name but a few.
The fact the Lanc's there is enough to make me salivate like one of Pavlovs dogs irrespective of what exact type.

Well, I can't promise that you will be happy, cause I don't know, if you will.
But at least we have re-writed the whole AI from the scratch.

Well, I am not that "back" as I used to.
I have much less time, since I need to be on our forums as well, not counting the development :)
Google told me there is still lot's of activities here, so I decided to answer a couple of questions. Can't promise I will appear here often.

The worlds best game dev had returned.
And of course there are alot of things happening you gave us a great game last time and with what your telling us it looks like, in terms of quality of the game this new game will be a market leader.

http://www.birdsofsteel.com/upload/i...0x700/H6K4.png

Oh i really want to fly that!!! And i hope to be able to "land" on the sea..... :o:o:o:o

Website updated with RAF planes!

In my unofficial list the only mistake was I got the mk of the Beaufort wrong :D

Normal Lancaster B mk III
http://www.birdsofsteel.com/upload/i.../lancaster.png

I have the site listed as a favourite so noticed the updated list earlier.

A great looking list, so classics!! Would of preffered a Typhoon to a Tempest but i really dont mind the Tempest at all :D

And the Lanc...

I'm so glad its the one it is. I didnt want a grand slam special or a gibson lanc. I just wanted a bog standard normal lanc and thats what they've given us. Excellent!!! Notice its in 49 squadron markings to (EA) which is probably a good shout, they were part of 5 group and did their fair share of work, from arms factories to peenemunde...they were their.

And the cream of the crop.... HURRICANES!!! 2 of em!!! But both look the same in the pics though. Still i have faith in the guys at Gaijen to deliver :D

One Hurricane to shoot down planes and one Hurricane to drop a couple of bombs or fly further. Will do me.

Now the negative...

6 BLOODY SPITFIRES!!!

That aside..

I cannot wait for some free flying on this now!!!

Lancaster Spitfire and Hurricane in formation - Beautiful!!

Cannot wait to fly the Mossie either!! What a beauty. No doubt Pope will be making use of it ;)

This game has jumped to the top of my must have list.

i never bothered to get the b17...are you able to switch gunner placements...like go from front gunner to ball turret (top and bottom ) to side gunner to rear??

On another note -

Lancaster Bomber EA-D of 49 Squadron Bomber Command was one of two 49 squadron Lancasters lost over Berlin during a raid on the night of 26/27 November 1943. Only the Bomb aimer "J G Burrows" survived. He was taken prisoner.

It would be good to see the serial number of this in game Lancaster.

Below is a pic of "D for Dog" after another previous trip to Berlin. Taken from a 49 squadron site -

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1983/DforD.jpg

Here's the site about this particular airplane -

http://www.btinternet.com/~christoph...AshmanFred.htm

To unlock the Lancaster win 500 strike games using bombers :twisted: ;)

Seriously now, the B-17 turrets were just the same as the other bombers in BoP, so no.

This is the ONLY game on my must have list. There are several games coming out that I'm going to rent and try out, but Birds of Steel is the only one that I plan on buying straight away.

Still patiently waiting for Birds of Steel....

500???!! Holy Mackeral Andy.... there would be some marathon boosting sessions going on. i think i can see what the first patch would be... :-P

it would be cool to be able to switch gunner positions...oh well..

lol this reminded me of this old thread. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...=secret+unlock

All aircraft shown on the BoS site are identical to the ones shown on the World of planes site. So here is the the Australian DAP Beaufighter mk.21 you can expect to be anounced soon on the BoS site ;) Can't wait to try out this birds firepower, Four 20mm cannons and four .50 machine guns (plus a pea shooter out the back lol). Japan Bettys beware!

http://www.worldofplanesgame.com/upl...nshots/016.jpg

I wonder if this one got shot down with a loss of the crew to ;)

Feels a bit daunting flying a plane you know was shot down with loss of life!!

About that Foz, I'm pretty sure for multiplayer/training you can make your plane into whatever particular plane in history you want. Thats why there are no markings on the basic plane skins. I'm guessing the previous pic of the lanc is from a single mission? thats why it has markings?

Here is the Lanc skin without markings.

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/a...56/woplanc.jpg

How do you mean?

In BoP you couldn't change skins or markings. I know in BoS it lets you change skins but i didnt know you could do markings!! If so does that mean i can fly around in the new game in my grandads Lancaster? VN-B? that would be pretty epic.

I believe Pope is saying that the singleplayer AC have markings because they missions are based on real missions. In multiplayer there are no markings because of the reverse.

Yes, aircraft customisation for multiplayer/training, to make the plane yours, to show that you belong to an online squadron, to recreate a specific aircraft in history that may be close to you.

This is my thinking behind the lack of markings on the planes anyway, as the customisation system already exists in Apache-AA.

Australian aircraft are up on the offical website.
http://birdsofsteel.com/en/game/plan...aufightermk21/

DAP Beaufighter mk21
CAC Boomerang mkI and mkII
CAC Wirraway mkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z6zk...layer_embedded
this might make waiting for players to join a match more enjoyable.

The Russian planes are out. new to the stable are the LaGG 3 35 and the yak 7B.


http://www.birdsofsteel.com/en/game/planes/ussr/i-153p/

German planes are out.

Some new and really looking forward to the cockpits in our old friends ;)

http://birdsofsteel.com/en/game/plan...any/arado-234/

Beat me to it KAV haha.

A great list, was suprised to see the JU-52 on it though!! A very welcome edition. Of all of them its the JU-88 i wouldnt mind taking for a free flight :)

Surely all of these planes can't be coming with cockpits though?

Anton said all planes have cockpits iirc.

Hopefully with ALL planes having cockpit which would truly add to this great game, will we be seeing co-pilots, navigators etc in the cockpits with us if we free look about the cockpit?

Would be great to fly the Lanc or the Mossie and look beside you to see the Navigator/Engineer at work.

This game is looking better and better by the week.

Anton!!! give us a release date!! :D

No, Unfortunatly he didn't.

Oh ok my bad I thought I had read it on the gaijin forums somewhere.
Still this is shapping up to be a great game.

Sadly, it looks like the Do-335 didn't make the cut. Still a most impressive list, can't wait to try 'em all :cool: I wonder if Elton John would mind if I flew a 163 to his soundtrack?
"Cause I'm a Rocket Man..."

Will do very soon.

Anton please don't think i was being rude or offensive by posting what i did. It was a bit of humour to go with my post (hence the smily face). I will be getting this game regardless so i'm in no rush.....

Though i would like it sooner rather than later ;) so about that release date...

Also... did you know that recent documents released by the RAF show that the Hawker Hurricane had a top speed in level flight of over 500MPH? It also had sidewinder missiles to compliment its 8 (yes 8 ;) ) hispano cannons, 4 were on the wing and visible, the other 4 were hidden from view inside the wing. Who would of believed it eh? And the strange ability to absorb damage and just carry on flying as it it hadn't been touched. Invulnrable if you like. But the icing on the cake... Did you know it had a Rolls Royce Merlin engine? Not a cessna one like we though? hahaha. If you cant implement the sidewinders etc then fair enough, im all game for a fair fight. But please give me a real merlin to listen to :D Thank you muchly haha.


As a side not guys... We should be expecting the Italian planes sometime tomorrow :D

Thats more like it.

Gamestop says 3/31

:roll: I know right? And people complain that its the Mustang that was messed up. ;) :lol:

Italian planes are up -

http://birdsofsteel.com/en/game/planes/italy/fiatcr42/

Fiat CR 42
Fiat G50 seria 2
Fiat G50 seria 7AS
MC 200 serie 3
MC 200 serie 7
MC 202

Not wishing to hype but I recieved the following from Amazon today....

"We have received new release date information related to the order you placed on September 08 2011.

We have good news! One of your pre-ordered items is now eligible for release date delivery and has been upgraded at no additional charge. Your new delivery estimate is:

**"Birds of Steel (PS3)"
***Estimated arrival date: March 12 2012"

That would be sweet gilly

Brilliant update Gilly! :cool:

Except that's a Monday soooo.... Maybe it's supposed to be March 13?

Amazon in the US is still showing March 31.

Futureshop has it listed as March 13. I was going out to pre-order today, but being as it is Friday the 13th, I'm stuck with the kids because of a snow day. Just my luck lol.

StiC

maybe they are going to ship pre-orders on monday ( 12th ) so they will be in the mailboxes tues the 13th. ???

If thats the case then we (UK and Europe) should expect it on the 16th as the Friday is when gamea are usually released over here.

Though to be honest we've not heard anything from Anton and he said he would let us know as soon as he knew anything. And he has been on here today and not said anything so i'm assuming he doesnt know yet either?

But its the Amazon UK site that is quoting the 12th. A Monday launch is unusual but its not unheard of.

From experience, in terms of delivery, Amazon have usually been pretty impressive. I got GT5 a day before official release. Online was quiet though.....
But in terms of being right on release dates, for GT5 it took them a few tries before they got it right. As I said originally I wasn't trying to hype just pass on what little info we seem to be getting onto those that have a vested interest. As for Anton not responding, is it like back at school where denial usually covered the fact that you had had a fumble with that big lass from the next village in the park on Friday night after downing a bottle of Thunderbird!!!

I'm just happy its coming.

i had the opposite experience with AAA. I got it a day or so after everyone picked it up in the stores. everyone here usually hits gamestop or best buy....that where the lines will be. i had a friend walk right into the local walmart and pick up a copy of a game right away...then drove past the lines at GS. <<< so that is my plan this time.

I would make sure walmart will have it as much ss we love il2 and look forward to BOS you have to admit it's not a huge name game walmart might not stock it that's why I'm preordering it from gamestop. Wish they would do a midnight release lol

"wally world" names their price in the world market with whatever they buy and IF its new, they will be one of the top dogs to get it....of they will never buy from that seller again. they simply will NOT be second rate or left behind...i guarantee you ....they will have enough copies by the time i get there. i will be bold and take the risk.....

Hello form KillRoy
 

Hello Ladies and Gents
As most of you know I am the GM over at Gaijin forums, I would like to start off by saying welcome and we are glad to have all of you visiting and playing our games.
Next I would like to ask that as you visit and play the games at Gaijin that you conduct your selves in a mature way and not start or bring flame wars or other battles to the forums or in the Pm system.
This is to insure that everyone has a good time playing and enjoys the forums that Gaijin has provided.

So in closing glad to meet all of you and hope we can all enjoy our selves and treat each other with respect.

Thanks
.................... KillRoy....................:cool:

hello KillRoy!

nice to see u here!very welcome!!!
and agree with u!!!!!

friendly
olife

Hi KillRoy,

Welcome to our humble forum. You will find that all, save for one, of the people both here and over on BoS are sane, polite and humble. We are a small number of addicts who have played BoP since inception. As can also be seen here it has been one particular lunatic that has done it's best to spoil the friendly nature found here. All that it's attempts have served to achieve is to bring us all together against, and as much as I don't wish to use the term, a common enemy. Rest assured that we all respect the AUP on both here and BoS but if you too had been subjected to it's homophobic, rascist nazi spouting you'd probably understand where we all are coming from. All I can hope is that is that you are not subjected to what some have had to endure. One can only guess at what makes a person so blatantly evil, history sadly has shown us there were and still are such nutters and as such we have to laugh it off and get on with it. It perhaps would have a stronger argument if it actually was any good!
Thanks for posting and I'm sure we all understand where you're coming from and thank you for the work you put in over on BoS.

glad to see you here killroy. you will find the pilots here are, like has been said above, game oriented and get along...between the different console...different nationalities..genders. we're not saints...we do engage in heated arguments on occasion BUT cooler heads prevail and we all make nice. there has been one or 2 that love to stir up trouble and keep coming back under different names...but they cant change their spots and are soon back to their dispicable behavior and are thus banned...again. other than that exception... its a great core of good players here who are pretty much ALL anxiously waiting for BoS...many of the names you will see on that forum. trust me you will enjoy talking and sharing with them.

Killroy has begun to answer a lot of questions on the BoS site...so do not hesitate to look there.

http://forum.gaijinent.com/index.php.../page__st__100

hate to double post but i wanted this separate from the greeting to killlroy.

Thank you very much for the warm welcome, I am glad to hear that all of you are very excited about the new game, I am also very excited to have all of you involved in playing it, My self I do not have a xbox or playstation, I am a big Pc fan.
But I will all way be around to help in any way that I can or who ever I can.

Thanks again for the warm welcome, I will return the warm welcome to you in Gaijin forums.

.................KillRoy..............

P.S. Olife waiting for more of your great art work Friend, hope to see more soon.

hello my friend KillRoy!

MILLIONS THANKS FOR THE HELP GENTLEMAN!VERY KIND FROM U!

for my modest artwork ,these last days and even last weeks ,i was very buzy and tired by work and didn't have too much time to do it ,my apologies,but i will be back soon with it.pleasure is mine!

friendly
olife

Update
 

We are glad to present you two locations that will be available in Birds of Steel: Kuban and Midway

Kuban is a region in Northern Caucasus, on the Black Sea coast; it includes the towns of Gelendzhik and Novorossiysk. The latter is located on the coast of Tsemess Bay, home to one of the largest and most convenient ports of the Black Sea. The region has several airfields and a naval base.

Midway is an atoll in the North Pacific Ocean, near the northwestern end of the Hawaiian Archipelago. Home to a navy base and an airfield.

Thanks KillRoy, and thanks too for welcoming everyone here to the Birds of Steel forum.

Back onto the topic of the website, does anybody else think the girl on the frontpage has.. not sure how to put it.. fat old lady legs? lol

Server problems
 

Anyone else having problems with Gajin forum ?
Keep getting server error notice.

Nope. Must be you kav ;)


















Kødda...

Yep I cant get on there either.

I can't do anything either. I also get a server error.

Yeah I got thought to the forum index but then got the busy error each time now. I notice it was getting slow to load yesterday (including the BoS website).

Ah well i guess some xbox time is in order...

What to play though...

Hmmm...

Hi Gents
Well the site is working again, from my experience with web sites I would say some one is trying to hack the site and down it, no names of who I think is doing this, but any way we will see what goes on now.
..................KillRoy..................

Cheers KillRoy, its much appreciated. The level some people go to are pretty sad.

That'll be the day...

Ok site is not working fully as of yet, they are experiencing some problems stand by I will keep you in formed of the progress.
...........KillRoy.........

From the errors I am guessing your getting a denial of service attack. Anyway thanks for keeping us informed.

The Gaijin forum is still Erroring (is that a word? lol) a lot. Is it just the amount of people is overloading it??

i have been getting that for awhile now. i wonder if a cumulation of ALL the forums could be causing that. i find it hard to believe the BoS forum itself has that many viewers to clog it up..

Wonder who it could be hmmmm

Still getting errors off and on

Gaijin needs to shell out for better servers/bandwidth. :-P

Or trace the attacks and contact the authorities... pretty sure things like that aren't legal...

hope this isnt a preview of their dedicated servers would be like ..... if they are going to use them for BoS....

I think the chances of them using dedicated servers for BoS are slim to none.

For their PC game it would cost them hardly anything to include dedi files, but even for that, I doubt we'll get it.

Pre-ordered yesterday, can't wait. I need to get back in the air!

Can we get a list of confirmed aircraft that have cockpit views? I was very disapointed with this implementation in BoP (only a handful of cockpits plus incorrect cockpits in at least one or two aircraft). The adds make it sound as if all 100 planes will have cockpit views, but I saw under a previous post that Anton admitted that the game has "much more unique" cockpits, which sounds to me like an admission that not all planes do have cockpit views. Is it, say, all of the fighters and no bombers?

Additionally, how does the damage model work? Is it really more dynamic, like in IL2 PC versions or is it still more of a "health bar," total loss type system wherein a plane cannot crash unless the total damage equals a set quantity?

As a final request, I would like to know more about how BoS differs from BoP. To be honest, I was disappointed with BoP on many levels. The graphics and flight physics were great, but overall execution seemed lacking. I was mainly frustrated with the damage model, cockpits, a few online features, and missions that did not allow for the full takeoff and landing options. In case you didn't realize, I'm more interested in the sim portion (which I know I shouldn't expect much on a console, but regardless, there other arcade flight games out there I could buy before this one if that's all I was interested in. It's the sim aspect that entices me).

Thanks again. I appreciate your feedback. Any answers you could provide will help me decide whether or not I will purchase this game.

@ Whiskey Red

If I'm not mistaken, I have seen that all fighters will have cockpit view though not sure how authentic they will all be. As for the bombers, I have no idea!

As for the damage model, I do know there will be no health bar feature. From what I've read, it sounds to me that it will be the same as BoP, but upgraded to have more areas that can be damaged.

As for the take off and landing for missions, that has been confirmed, but as to what extent I'm not sure. I do know that you can re-fuel and re-arm by landing, but no specifics as to exactly how it works.

Hope that helps!