man gets new lease on life, celebrates by collecting air-cooled Porsches
 

From Rennlist :

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1. I hope he asked his niece what she wanted first and not his wife, how ungrateful it would be if he had not.
2. Why, for the love of god, if being given a second chance at life did he not use his money for something meaningful that might actually help others who are not as well off as he is, so they might get a second chance?

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My thoughts exactly, a large donation to one of the children's transplant organisations would have been more befitting :confused:


Although he does have a bit of an epiphany on page 3 of his thread.

"as for my niece, when she approach me and my wife and told us that she wanted to be the donor, we asked her, are you sure? She said uncle Rudy , the LORD spoke to me clearly and told me I was to do this, so YES I want to do it, and one more thing, I DON'T WANT NOTHING IN RETURN please, heck she wouldn't even let me pay for her GAS, she will drive 1 1/2 hrs one way for every DR visit, and I think there was a total of 10 visits for ALL the tests that had to be done , she has a BIG heart but if she ever needs anything I will be there for HER."

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1. From the OP on Rennlist:

2. Jobs are the best way to help others. Think about how many jobs are involved with maintaining and running a fleet of 15plus-year-old cars: mechanics, parts manufacturers, parts suppliers, oil and fuel producers, petrol stations, suppliers of car care products, insurance agent, dept of motor vehicles.

You can't be serious?

yep, frankly I don't get the whole thing, above all why not getting back the fantastic supercars he had before and swap them with a fleet of Beetles? :confused:

:grin::grin::grin:

On a serious note, air cooled Porsches are the best.

Although I can't resist the passion for the Bertone from Alfa Romeo :)

Why not??

That's right baby, Alfa Romeo Brera here :cool:

Good for him, its his money he should do with it as he see's fit. As for all the occupy/freeloader crowd if you ever worked hard for your money. Bled and sweated your ass off for it. You would see things differently and I dont mean your minimum wage job that you leave after 6 hours of halfass work. I mean work 2 to 3 jobs and go to school in between and try to get ahead work your ass off and then get taxed so lazy chits can get a free ride on my dime. Rant over:grin:

Huh?
Someones life was saved by another one, and to make that up he starts collecting 911's?
That's greed, nothing else.

What if he entered the drug business, just think of all the jobs; coke farmer, the people involved in trafficking, the bribed cops and the dealers on the streets - sooo many jobs!
A true success story! A true demonstration of love!

What is your point?
(It's not like I cared what he does with his money, for all I care he can use $100 bills to light Havannas)

I think BaronWasteland's judgement is a bit blinded by his passion for Porsches ;)

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Do any drug dealers or coke farmers or drug smugglers have retirement plans and medical insurance plans? If not, they're not really jobs.

My point is that when people, like the ones who buy a fleet of 911's, spend their money freely in the legitimate market place, it supports jobs (in the case of Porsche parts, service, oil and fuel -- good jobs), and those jobs pay good wages and medical insurance benefits. Many of those jobs will be in his local community.

Thanks for asking, I'm glad you're getting some free education on the benefits of a free market economy!

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"Hey niece, thanks for selflessly saving my life. Now I can go out and buy more cars!!!" :confused: :(

Wow, dude get's a second lease on life and he procedes to do immediately what brings him joy. He is belittled because he doesn't give his money away? That dude probably pays 50% in taxes. As far as I'm concerned no one else needs anymore of his money. Let him do what he wants with his money. FFS, people these days always gimme gimme I want and trying to stick their hands in other peoples pockets.

I don't pay but about 30% in taxes and 10% in tithe but I'll be danged if anyone else is getting another cent from me. Between Uncle Sam and the good Lord above people have all they need. Especially if they get off their lazy tails and at least attempt to do something with their lives.

So baffled as to this guy living his newfound life the way that brings him joy and he is berated and belittled.

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Same here. As my dear Sterny points out, I seem to have been blinded to this class-envy thing by my "passion", or perhaps just my naïveté. I honestly just thought it was an extraordinary story about how one guy came to decide on a particular type of car.

I think most people equate 'a new lease on life' as a new outlook on life..... much like an Eboneezer Scrooge moment. There is a difference.

I frankly don't care where he gets the money or how much taxes he pays, but if you drop a Lambo Gallardo, a Fezza 360 and get yourself a bunch of old Porsches it's obvious that the medications and experience messed the dude's brains up a bit..

He can do with his money what he want but I don't care. His niece on the other had is some to admire. I had a high paying job but when my wife could no longer care for my disabled son I gave up my job and money. Now I live on a carers pension. So this mans having lots of money and a Porsche fetish does not interest me one bit, but human compassion does.

Are you serious 2.0?
Are you telling me that consumption creates jobs? Unfriggin-believable!
Money always works, almost always creates jobs - only if you keep it under pillow it won't.
Logically it doesn't matter what he does with money, as long as it's invested.
And just to p-o you a bit more - what he did it the worst kind of spending, Porsches are imports, ergo that money leaves the country and adds to your trade deficit. Smart move, lol.


You are sure you got some?
My education cost way more than his car collection, wasn't paid by the gov. either. I dont think it was worth it, but anyway.


So he got his own mechanic, which is his full time employee with insurance coverage?
All the others too?

Would love to help you understand how basic economics work, but you don't understand the difference between a used car imported over a decade ago and a new one, so I'll have to end the lesson here. Enjoy a couple of examples of "import parts".

You're cute.

What I don't get is the conclusions people jump to with limited amounts of information.

Or is this again: Assumption is the mother of all ***.

Why should he publicly proclaim to have given to charity?

A couple of $3.00 oil filters hardly warrants major parts items as these service parts including plugs air filters etc ... are usually made locally in all countries as they are low cost items and importing them makes no sense.

Now getting a new engine or gearbox, not recon, would be a feat.

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Please tell me where I can buy a set of PORSCHE brand oil filters for a 993 for $6.

Also what a fair labor rate I should pay for a PORSCHE specialist to do the oil change.

TIA

Overpriced anyway !

Yeah, the price of something the consumer pays is in NO way indicative of the price it costs to manufacture it.

I would imagine that the $3 no name brand filter costs roughly the same as the $30 Porsche one or whatever.

Luxury brands survive on margin. And margin is payment over and above production costs.

Everyone has an example from their own life experience of buying or knowing someone who bought something for more money just because it had a name attached to it.

Anyway.

If the story is bonafide, his neice is a very generous and astonishingly graceful person. Good for her. As for the cars, they're just more ways to funnel money to the petrol companies.

Wolv still with your 1st pilot ? ... congrats !

No, those are his statistics when he died. I stopped putting them all up there because I have died too many times!

I left #1 up there though as a tribute to him.

RIP "1st"

Never let facts or data get in the way of bold proclamations.

Which is precisely why I didn't state it as a fact.

I don't work in the car parts industry, so I say "I would imagine" because the industry in which I DO work deals with this sort of thing all the time.

I do cost estimates. I know for a FACT that major consumer food plants will dump the exact same product into different branded containers that sell for widely varying prices. All on the same shelf!

The consumer will go to the store. Balk at buying the 'cheap' one since it can't be as good as the one that is 20% more. The one that's 40% more is just a rip-off, so the shopper says 'I will be a smart consumer and buy the middle priced one. It must be better than the cheap one, but not overpriced like the expensive one'.

Without knowing it, they've just made a 'choice' between three of the same product and paid 20% more for the pleasure!

So, I 'imagine' that industry and market tactics being what they are, the car parts industry operates much the same way.

I would also imagine that at one point in your life you've probably been the consumer in the example above without realizing it.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply wolverine. I must admit, I often wonder how much I can trust parts suppliers? How hard is it to print a label "Made in Germany" and put it on the plastic part made.. who-knows-where? Although I must say the quality of the label is superb, some of them stay in place for years! :D

1. I am concerned about his character. Or let me rephrase that, I am amazed to hear of a person so self-complacent that the prospect of certain death and the reflection of his life till this point only lead to him readjusting his interest in sportscars. One would have thought that he would have met other patients who do not have money to throw about, who do work hard in a honest profession, this resulting in him developing some kind of compassion for his fellows in misery. Guess not...
2. To all who get worked up and accusing me and others who have agreed with me so far of envy, please be assured, I have absolutely no material interest in what he or any other man does with his riches. Yet with them there come obligations towards the community, which are not dealt and done with by paying taxes. At least not in my understanding of the inner workings of a community of values. Btw, if paying taxes makes you all green-eyed and evil, why not move to the Cayman Islands? I have heard they welcome Scrooge-like moneybags with open arms.

It's easy to be idealistic when your talking about giving away something you don't have.
Maybe the guy manages to afford all that and still gives to charity, the article didn't say anything about it so we're just assuming he doesn't. I guess those cars are just what he likes same way we like flight sims. I mean should I sell my p.c and all my sim gear and give the proceeds to charity? Am I a bad person for wanting things that give me enjoyment while others have nothing?
I do regularly give to charity (Save the Children) but I could give more as could all of us I suspect. What is enough giving?

Wow.....Thanks for posting this. I am truly overcome with emotion at this heartwarming story. The guy was at deaths door and was then given a second chance in life. It was then in an epiphanic moment he realised the things that really matter in life. More Cars!!! :grin: It was then that the Almighty told him to go Forth and buy fleet of Porsches. PRAISE THE LORD!!! ALLELUJAH!!!

I care less about how much money he has, it makes a person no better or worse than anyone else, and money is not my God. Nice to have, and important but not everything in life. I don't want or more importantly 'need' a fleet of Porsches....Nobody does. Good for him, well done lol. Not religious at all, but I sincerely hope what Jesus said was true; which kind of leaves people like this up *bleep* creek without a paddle.

'And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.'

Matthew 19:24

Loads more, bit inconvenient for the stinking rich multi billionaire 'Evangelist' types. The types that say 'the poor are poor because it is all their fault'. Wouldn't dream of telling him what to do with it, none of my business and....Good luck. But I'm not the one saying 'Praise the Lord'. That said, I don't know the bloke and he might be the kindest man on Earth for all I know. He could also be working at KFC and pretending to own a fleet of Porsches. Its the internetz. :grin:

I would be interested to know how he made his fortune though, as he sounds a bit 'special'. There is NO need to CAPITALISE the words he DID for no APPARENT reason. What DO you THINK? :grin:

LOL your right! Terrific use of commas to replace all other punctuation aswell.

Another bit of info, since I have some experience with this as well:

Manufacturers will attempt to hide where they are producing items because that is also a bit of a thing for some consumers.

Something that says "Product of Canada" is quite different from something that says "Made in Canada" which is again different from something that says "Produced in Canada" and different again from "Manufactured in Canada"! One may have parts or materials that originated in Canada, one may be put together in Canada from parts made in other countries, one may be funded or have its operating business base in Canada, and one may be fabricated in Canada from materials purchased inside or outside Canada.

Companies will do whatever they can to get you to buy their product while producing that product for as little money as possible. That's the only way our current economies will function and companies can survive (and it's not even doing to great lately as you can see on the news!).

Some governments attempt to legislate how a company can label their products in this way to help protect consumers, but it's still very hard to decipher.

This is wrong. There is way enough price margin to conceive and built completely most of the products on site in so called "rich" countries.

The only things we lack is brain & guts.

Perhaps I overstated the 'only way our economy/companies survives' thing. So, fair dues there.

I never said companies don't build products 'on site' as you say. If that is part of their product's core value then making it in Canada, or Germany, or where ever adds to their product's saleability. That doesn't make it cheaper, though. Doesn't necessarily make it more expensive either, but make no mistake - they're not manufacturing something in Germany because of some altruistic 'German parts made by Germans for Germany!' creed. It's because the company and its shareholders see the added value that putting that sticker on their product carries.

Again, speaking from experience, I would wager that a company like Porsche will put out a tender for pricing once every three years or so for parts manufacturers from all over the world to bid on their contracts for manufacturing. They will take the pricing and evaluate it, associating a certain 'added value' to making the part domestically. Very likely, making parts domestically carries with it government subsidies and other benefits to things such as taxes and employment insurance premiums.

Luxury brands have more margin to work with, certainly, and that allows them to source materials and labour that costs more and still profit. But their overhead is often just as high as other companies that make their profits by selling a gajillion units. Porsche sells a lot of cars, but not as many as Ford. So their margin is higher, but it has to be to keep the company going.

None of this is simple enough to really be sorted on a flight sim forum :P

Imported cars have kept me fed, in a warm cozy home, and allowed me the ability to enjoy the little diversions, like flight simulation, for over 25 years.

Like the gent in question, it's my money, I made it, and only I have the right to say how it's spent. You want it to go to something that you feel is more important that what I feel is should go for? Sorry about your luck. If you really feel that you or anyone else, or worse, the government knows best how to spend MY money, than I suggest two alternatives for you:

1. Move to North Korea, and enjoy the benefits of a totally managed economy.

2. Take a long walk off a short pier.

:rolleyes:

Baron, when I was still at my previous job, we made a lot of 944 owners very happy by doing some homework and cross-referencing the Porsche and VW parts numbers. One example are the CV joints for the rear axles. The 944 used the same one as the VW bus and Vanagon. Same exact part in a Lobro (the manufacturer) box instead of a Porsche box cost 30% less.

It's a bit tougher for the air cooled cars, but even they pilfer the VW-Audi parts bin for switch gear and the like.

If you really feel that you or anyone else, or worse, the government knows best how to spend MY money

What on Earth are you waffling on about? Don't recall mentioning any 'Government' at all.....or telling people how they should spend their money? Might be because I never did. If that point is directed at a specific post then make it clear instead of generalising. People are just making the point he sounds like a completely vacuous, ostentatious and barely literate twonk. BTW I've got a few suggestions for you.

1. Move a little closer to the screen, never mind a foreign country. Maybe you'll be able to read peoples posts better.
2. Leave the Politics out as this is forbidden by forum rules. Otherwise you're taking a long walk of the forum pier. Obvious Republican blowhard is obvious. Give it a rest.

:rolleyes:

And you chide me for talking politics?

So it's OK for people to say the guy should have given his money away, but not OK for someone else to say that it's his to do with as he sees fit?



Obvious double standard is obvious.

Nope. No politics, nor political viewpoint espoused....unlike you. ;) A simple statement of fact which I note you don't deny. :grin:

For the second time, its none of my business what he does with his 'hard earned', which I stated previously. If you are referring to others, then say so and address them and their post directly. Simples. To state the blindingly obvious, of course its his to do as he sees fit....we agree. :rolleyes:

Obvious lack of reading comprehension is obvious. :)

I'm still waiting for the name of the shop that'll do my oil change for 29.99, to include:

9 litres Mobil 1 fully synthetic motor oil
2 oil filters
2 oil seals
1 hour labor of a technician well versed in air-cooled dry-sump engines

And who said he doesn't donated to charity? He posted on car forum about collecting cars. Or should he feel the need to justify himself for doing what he likes? If I donated to charity, I wouldn't go around telling people about it, it would just be something I did because it felt right.

If he invested the money in restoring/building WW2 aircraft, I bet you guys would be telling different story :)

..I frankly think this thread was going nowhere in the beginning and it's utterly lost in space now...

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SPAAAAAACE!

thanks wolverine for moving the thread back to the topic :)

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Yep ,my thoughts about people on this forum are correct after all.