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raaaid 10-23-2011 03:53 PM

a=a+1, computers know reality can be bent
 
1+1 is not equal two but its equal to whatever i want

in my imagination a simulation of reality like jesus take one fish and one bread and get whatever i want

is curious that the language of logic, maths, is made to represent the reality as it seems

the maths of computer know that reality depends on the programmer will

now dont computers work flawlessly?

this means relaity is not what it seems but what we want

i suppose the only reasn we cant fly is we are utterly convinced we cant, you know faith moves mountains

pupo162 10-23-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 353290)
i suppose the only reasn we cant fly is we are utterly convinced we cant, you know faith moves mountains

please. please.please. dont try to fly by jumping out of a window.

bongodriver 10-23-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pupo162 (Post 353297)
please. please.please. dont try to fly by jumping out of a window.

Don't listen to him, he has no imagination, you can fly.

Sternjaeger II 10-23-2011 04:53 PM

raaaid, seriously man, knock it off, it's starting to be very annoying.

raaaid 10-23-2011 06:06 PM

yeah sorry i will

freedom of speech?

theres not even freedom of thought if i tell what i really think to an inquisitor as i do here no doubt ill get free accomodation

pupo162 10-23-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 353310)
raaaid, seriously man, knock it off, it's starting to be very annoying.

its fine with me, im Raaid fan ;).

but seriously, you cant fly. dont try it.

Kodoss 10-23-2011 06:22 PM

No, it's just stupid machine logic.

First it realize that "a" exist in it's memory.
Then it takes the value of "a" and adds "1".
After that it saves "a" with the new value in it's memory.

It's like you have a box called "a", with steel balls in it, on your desk.
You take that Box and adds 1 steel ball.
Then you putt it back on the desk.

Redroach 10-23-2011 06:42 PM

contrary to your own, perceived genius, raaaaaaaaaaaid, this has long been adressed and there never was any paradox.
the '=' of computer science is just an abbreviation of ':=' (see older programming languages), which is a definition symbol. It means "is defined as", not "is equivalent to", as in mathematics.

bongodriver 10-23-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 353335)
yeah sorry i will

freedom of speech?

theres not even freedom of thought if i tell what i really think to an inquisitor as i do here no doubt ill get free accomodation

You have all the freedom of 'thought' you want....just keep it to yourself.......and yes you really can fly.

Sternjaeger II 10-23-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 353335)
yeah sorry i will

freedom of speech?

theres not even freedom of thought if i tell what i really think to an inquisitor as i do here no doubt ill get free accomodation

No, this forum is not your brain,where u can feel free to think whatever u want. Your posts don't make sense 99.9% of the time and they're just far too many,pushing other potentially interesting posts down. Dude, seriously, contain yourself, it was funny at first, but now it's just a joke..

raaaid 10-24-2011 12:17 PM

yeah sorry again it was not my intend ill keep my madneess to the ubizoo

here even the offtopic is ontopic which is boring

bongodriver 10-24-2011 12:20 PM

Honestly raaaid it is your deparation for attention which is getting boring.

raaaid 10-24-2011 12:33 PM

you dont know me

i dont lone for attention i just lone for a world where i can be my nice self and dont be unfairly look down on

bongodriver 10-24-2011 12:42 PM

1. I don't know you because you said it yourself you use annonymity.

2. your quest for a 'world' might be better served by actually exploring the 'real world' outside of a very specific forum.

3. the 'you' I am responding to is here ad nauseum making posts which at best are just nonsensical, and at worst are predictably innevitable and tedious.

raaaid 10-24-2011 12:58 PM

you cant predict what im gonna post i can predict youll post something rude

do you know youre a bully?
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like i force people to read my stuff

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and plz let me be i said i wouldnt make more threads you win

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you know what i got fed up

never been bullied as a child, too strong, but the net is a different thing

i will never ever post agin over the net, raaaid has just died, i used anonimity to express what i cant in real life while others use that anonimty to spell all their venom

is not that i dont deserve to post is that people dont deserve to read me

bongodriver 10-24-2011 01:36 PM

If you have to use annonymity to say stuff you can't get away with as yourself then that in itself is very revealling.

you don't force people to read your stuff, but you do clog up the forum with irrelevant crap that keeps knocking other more interesting stuff down the list.

I can't predict 'what' you are going to post but I can predict you 'will' post something and that it will be another attempt at pseudo intellectuallism or other mumbo jumbo.

I am not a bully, I have said nothing offensive or used proffanity, I am expressing my own oppinion....not the oppinion of some weird alter-ego.

Sternjaeger II 10-24-2011 02:16 PM

I'm sure that your signature style will stick out...

btw, yes, stick to Ubizoo, that's the right place man.

AndyJWest 10-24-2011 04:50 PM

Personally, I think Raaaid's threads are a lot more interesting than much of the kindergarten whining and endless repetitious insults we see elsewhere. Yes Raaaid is nuts, and usually he makes no sense whatsoever, but sometimes you have to think about it to work out why. Once in a while he'll actually say something profound (usually by accident), though you may need to be familiar with RaaaidSpeak to spot it.

More to the point though, if you don't like Raaaid's threads, you don't have to read them, but other threads about potentially interesting topics more often than not end up with the same few individuals engaging in infantile mud-slinging - and this does much more to stifle rational debate than anything Raaaid does. I'll not name names, but if it was down to me to clean this place up, Raaaid would be the least of my priorities when it came to handing out bans.

bongodriver 10-24-2011 04:56 PM

Everyone is entitled to their oppinion

Sternjaeger II 10-24-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 353778)
Personally, I think Raaaid's threads are a lot more interesting than much of the kindergarten whining and endless repetitious insults we see elsewhere. Yes Raaaid is nuts, and usually he makes no sense whatsoever, but sometimes you have to think about it to work out why. Once in a while he'll actually say something profound (usually by accident), though you may need to be familiar with RaaaidSpeak to spot it.

More to the point though, if you don't like Raaaid's threads, you don't have to read them, but other threads about potentially interesting topics more often than not end up with the same few individuals engaging in infantile mud-slinging - and this does much more to stifle rational debate than anything Raaaid does. I'll not name names, but if it was down to me to clean this place up, Raaaid would be the least of my priorities when it came to handing out bans.

As far as I'm concerned you can join Raaaid in the Ubizoo, I'm sure you'll both have cracking times there.

raaaid 10-24-2011 05:03 PM

i wonder if i should make a poll or weather i should stay or leave

no not again

i know thwe result so wont be lead by the heat of the moment ill stay :)

in the heat of the moment i deleted my sig

could plz someone fit this to 64*64 i dont know how:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...aid/23afeg.jpg

Sternjaeger II 10-24-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 353791)
i wonder if i should make a poll or weather i should stay or leave

no not again

i know thwe result so wont be lead by the heat of the moment ill stay :)

..I thought you said you were gonna leave?

raaaid 10-24-2011 05:07 PM

yeah people say things when they get mad

i learnt around 10 not to lead your life by things you say when youre pieced

you cant call me a lier i really meant it, soft will , sure, thats why i cant quit smoking :(

edit:

hey but if you wont make a poll of weather i should leave

ive done it 3 times and 85 people prefers me in why should i take into account a minority


ive been thinking why i have kept for 10 years exposing myself to a ridiculiztion even a naughty 5 year old could do of me

well the things i think have not been consider bfore its kind of a shame they get lost

whats the size of a basic 30 word thought

30 elevated to one million english words :)

wow, though if you reduce the thoughts that contain money or idtiot it has to decrease quite much

bongodriver 10-24-2011 05:18 PM

raaaid you are welcome to have all the adoration you feel you deserve, it's true there are people here willing to swallow any of the turds for posts you make here......kudos to you, but you have to learn to take the rough with the smooth and accept theres people who just get annoyed by you, and particularily you little wounded swan act.

instead of spouting your meaningless crap, why don't you research how to resize your own pics (like the rest of us had to) and make your own poll (the instructions are in the forum on how to do it) I look forward to seeing the fruits of your labour.....really

raaaid 10-24-2011 05:43 PM

haha do you think i dislike you?

i dont and if you dislike me you got it wrong, hell noone in the zoo dislike me i dont see why would anyone would

do you think you can find very often:
gravity explain as inflation



the true meaning of the X symbol asto infinity and beyond

time perception as to slow down the whole universe

the top secret tech of using bein sink in bretahable fluid to stand any amount of G forces

a method to compress random 30 stringsize charachters into random size 27 chars

that 1+1=whatever one wants

...

if you point me to this anywhere in the repeated ad nausa media implanted thoughts everywhere else in the net my sense of posting as a writter will make it unworth it and then ill stop

bongodriver 10-24-2011 05:50 PM

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haha do you think i dislike you?
I don't think so and don't particularily care either way

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i dont and if you dislike me you got it wrong, hell noone in the zoo dislike me i dont see why would anyone would
I don't particularily dislike you.....I am not in a position to like or dislike, I just find your posts annoying and worthless, I happen to know people from the Ubizoo that have a different oppinion to your statement.

Quote:

do you think you can find very often:
gravity explain as inflation



the true meaning of the X symbol asto infinity and beyond

time perception as to slow down the whole universe

the top secret tech of using bein sink in bretahable fluid to stand any amount of G forces

a method to compress random 30 stringsize charachters into random size 27 chars

that 1+1=whatever one wants

...

if you point me to this anywhere in the repeated ad nausa media implanted thoughts everywhere else in the net my sense of posting as a writter will make it unworth it and then ill stop

more of the sensless drivel you keep spewing out.

raaaid 10-24-2011 06:00 PM

well its drivel by your opinion but at least im original,dont you accept a degree of creativity on my posts? its not like im saying the queen of england is a reptilian

ive seen will smith on tv saying 1+1=equals whatever you want not just two, so this seem some kind of witch hunting, irrational=drivel

and using being sink in a human density fluid, if you think about it its the best pressure suit, the more g force the more pressure it applies

its not like im spamming the site either i make one thread evry two days

plz point me how i should change my way and if reasonable ill abide

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plz feel free in explaining why any of those thoughts are stupid

are they wrong, why?

for example where im wrong or am i being stupid in my point of using a human breathable fluid to stand high G

how can you be sure is not secret war tech?

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maybe you dont see that an X is a road taht goes to infinity and beyond?

its easy to grasp and think about yet original

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and whats stupid on taking an inflating model which explains gravity by the earth accelerating up as the earth inflates ?the measure instruments inflate in sync so you just cant tell

do you realize you call drivel what you overlook

Sternjaeger II 10-24-2011 06:09 PM

Ok,let me make a point here,because I believe you are genuine,and that's frankly what scares me the most :-/

This is an off-topic forum in a forum dedicated to aviation sims,so one would expect to see topics that sort of veer in aviation, technology, engines, modelling etc., not "uhmmmm shall I have some toast or cereals for breakfast?" posts. You manage to be off topic in an off topic forum, it's a talent! Not the kinda talent you would put in a CV mind you...

I frankly don't care if you stick around or go, just contain your jibber-jabber man, or ask the mods for 1 sticky thread called "the Raaaid's Rambling Rants collection"..

raaaid 10-24-2011 06:15 PM

oh come on there should be a rule

im begining to wonder if i should report certain topics to be move to the main section for being too on topic and boring and repeated ad nausea

new game new rig come on

is it cause im a nut whos proud to be nuts?

like a gay who behaves to ssiisyy

AndyJWest 10-24-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 353786)
As far as I'm concerned you can join Raaaid in the Ubizoo, I'm sure you'll both have cracking times there.

Thank you Sternjaeger, for providing a perfect example of the sort of infantile behaviour I was talking about. No reasoned debate, just insults. As far as I'm concerned, your opinion on the matter is worthless.

bongodriver 10-24-2011 06:16 PM

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and using being sink in a human density fluid, if you think about it its the best pressure suit, the more g force the more pressure it applies
I will just use an example here.....given there is a speck of credibility to the theory, but are you suggesting that a pilot should be immersed in a tank of fluid in order to resist g better?.......have you really thought that one through, what kind of structure would take the load of a man sized tank of fluid pulling 9 'g's (or more if your theory is applied) and not be so heavy that it can still be airborne, like all your theories it is just as usefull as a chocolate fireguard.

Sternjaeger II 10-24-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 353848)
Thank you Sternjaeger, for providing a perfect example of the sort of infantile behaviour I was talking about. No reasoned debate, just insults. As far as I'm concerned, your opinion on the matter is worthless.

Why so serious? :confused:

I thought that Raaaid's threads where some sort of lalala-land where all is possible ;-)

Joking aside,my idea was not meant to be offensive,it was just a suggestion ;)

pupo162 10-24-2011 06:22 PM

dont like his threads stay out.... quite simple.

bongodriver 10-24-2011 06:25 PM

don't like mine......ignore.......even simpler

raaaid 10-24-2011 06:37 PM

yeah of course for a aplain is useless

but what if you have a 100G propeller schauberger turbine style

then being sink in a breathable human density fluid is the perfect solution

you could even make 180º turns and not hit the walls

like wales who cant stand earth g forces but live pleasently on the sea, guess their density

edit:

think of a bucket with water that drops and hits the ground

if theres anything on it slightly floating will it hit the ground on impact?


hey could this be a valid idea to save dropping eggs from building as the crazy americans do

bongodriver 10-24-2011 06:39 PM

a whaa?

bongodriver 10-24-2011 06:44 PM

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then being sink in a breathable human density fluid is the perfect solution
for a start a fluid of the same density as a human would be like trying to breathe jelly.

g force would still be the same wether you are in a fluid or not....it wont stop the effect.

whales dont like being out of water because their bone structure is not designed to....are you that stupid?

p.s. my prediction came true....you did make another pointless ramble

winny 10-24-2011 07:52 PM

Raaaid,

Unless a Mod asks you to stop posting, then carry on. Nobody here has the right to tell you to stop just because they don't like what you're posting.

I like a good Raaaid thread, I don't undestand a lot of them, but they are at least thought provoking... I mean, how many Spitfire FM threads have there been? Loads, all covering the same old ground, spiralling into the same old ego-fest that is this forum... Yawn.

Give me fly mindbending and tin scratching any day.

I like the fact that every time I log onto this forum there's a possibility that I could be presented with the most random thread on the internet, ever.

Embrace the strangeness of it.

bongodriver 10-24-2011 07:56 PM

I'm not telling him to stop posting.....I just have a right to let him know what I think.

winny 10-24-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 353902)
I'm not telling him to stop posting.....I just have a right to let him know what I think.

Don't get me wrong, the first thing I thought was.. try flying then, but I just thought it, it was also quite funny at the time you posted it. It just deteriorated after that.

I don't wanna upset you, and I didn't mention any names so as not to.

I too, am truley gobsmacked by some of Raaids threads, but I wanted to add a different point of view.

If you click on a Raaaid thread you're kind of opting out of reality as you know it, all bets are off, anything is possible. Not worth getting angry or annoyed over.

bongodriver 10-24-2011 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by winny (Post 353939)
Don't get me wrong, the first thing I thought was.. try flying then, but I just thought it, it was also quite funny at the time you posted it. It just deteriorated after that.

I don't wanna upset you, and I didn't mention any names so as not to.

I too, am truley gobsmacked by some of Raaids threads, but I wanted to add a different point of view.

If you click on a Raaaid thread you're kind of opting out of reality as you know it, all bets are off, anything is possible. Not worth getting angry or annoyed over.

Yes I am inclined to agree with the sentiment here.....but my annoyance with raaaid is more complex, I am sceptical about how honest he really is, I find an air of troll about him, he just uses a method that makes him seem like an innocent simpleton, his motives are very trollish, make posts that promote a reaction, he practically begs for the attention (positive and negative)

winny 10-24-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 353940)
Yes I am inclined to agree with the sentiment here.....but my annoyance with raaaid is more complex, I am sceptical about how honest he really is, I find an air of troll about him, he just uses a method that makes him seem like an innocent simpleton, his motives are very trollish, make posts that promote a reaction, he practically begs for the attention (positive and negative)

Fair points.

It really makes no difference to me if he's 'real' or not. But I could say that about any member here, it's all anonymous, I mean who the **** am I? Or you? Or anybody on here..

I'd rather have Raaaid than some of the sharks swimming around this forum, sat in the murky depths, waiting for the moment they can type 'wrong!' (In caps) and start a feeding fenzy where all the other sharks can have a bite too. (just to be clear, I don't mean you!)

bongodriver 10-24-2011 11:22 PM

I quite agree, there is an excess of e-penis waving that goes on on these forums.

Sternjaeger II 10-24-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by winny (Post 353985)
Fair points.

It really makes no difference to me if he's 'real' or not. But I could say that about any member here, it's all anonymous, I mean who the **** am I? Or you? Or anybody on here..

I'd rather have Raaaid than some of the sharks swimming around this forum, sat in the murky depths, waiting for the moment they can type 'wrong!' (In caps) and start a feeding fenzy where all the other sharks can have a bite too. (just to be clear, I don't mean you!)

I have to say that's an interesting point, care to expand it?

winny 10-25-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 353996)
I have to say that's an interesting point, care to expand it?

No. Got nothing else to add.

Sternjaeger II 10-25-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by winny (Post 354088)
No. Got nothing else to add.

It was rhetorical, I figured as much, throw the stone and hide the hand, typical :rolleyes:

bongodriver 10-25-2011 10:55 AM

Steady guys...this is very OT (even on a raaaid thread) and Stern....be very carefull or you will be validating Winny's contribution, not so much feeding the troll but you are stalking him a bit.

raaaid 10-25-2011 11:23 AM

im authentic, just a frustrated writter and with this forums i set a better future by influencing so many people :)

the opposite than the malleus malleficarum author did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckhbz4xuLfM

winny 10-25-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 354095)
It was rhetorical, I figured as much, throw the stone and hide the hand, typical :rolleyes:

I'm not hiding anything. I made a point. I didn't use any names. It was just an observation of what happens in here sometimes, I've seen it happen.

bongodriver 10-25-2011 11:43 AM

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im authentic, just a frustrated writter and with this forums i set a better future by influencing so many people
Why 'this' forum?.........I am failing to see why a game developers forum and more specifically a section dedicated to a flight sim is viewed as the perfect outlet for your psychotic babble, or indeed how you expect to change the world by it.

you are frustrated alright...but a writer you are not, nor a credible intelect....I find none of the theories you raise any more thought provoking than how your uncle does that trick where he pulls the end of his thumb off (I can explain that one to you if you like)

Here is a summary of you (taken directly from your own words)

a 30/40 something year old mentally challenged guy who is on meds and lives with his mother, doesn't work for a living because it interferes with your weed smoking and obsessive need for attention from the internet, you would have us believe you take counselling from your sister because she is apparently a shrink (this has to break certain codes of medical ethics), you spend an unhealthy amount of time marvelling over a concept the rest of the world can take for granted i.e. the world is 3d and you achieve this by crossing your eyes and breathing through your mouth.

raaaid 10-25-2011 11:44 AM

" I am sceptical about how honest he really is"

yeah in the end i knew you got a wrong idea of me

i use the forums to tell what i cant tell in real life

fly mind bending

seeing youtube streoscopic

seeing auras

having levitated as a kid

in a way im kind of showing off telling this things but thats not the reason

do you know how unhealthy can be not getting this out of your chest?

but if i do in real life people will think im a schizophrenic

im not just have an odd life and i am slightly delusional

but i dont think my seeing youtube stereoscopic or seeing auras or black hair shine blue is an hallucinataion

but im not sure so i discuss it

man in the future people will read me this will be known as internet prosa

to have the chance to see what a quite normal person REALLY thinks

i just sit here and let my thoughts flow and write as it comes

do you realize that if people dared to share their real thoughts, most would seem insane

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well ive been playing airwar sims for 15 years so thats why i hang around here

raaaid 10-25-2011 11:49 AM

a 30/40 something year old mentally challenged guy who is on meds and lives with his mother, doesn't work for a living , you would have us believe you take counselling from your sister because she is apparently a shrink (this has to break certain codes of medical ethics), you spend an unhealthy amount of time marvelling over a concept the rest of the world can take for granted i.e. the world is 3d and you achieve this by crossing your eyes very slightly

i corrected it for you ;)

bongodriver 10-25-2011 11:56 AM

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i use the forums to tell what i cant tell in real life
please explain exactly why you are restricted by real life?


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but if i do in real life people will think im a schizophrenic

im not just have an odd life and i am slightly delusional
either way you have me convinced you are a nut job....so whats the difference?

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do you realize that if people dared to share their real thoughts, most would seem insane
Do you realise the world is not really a lie and most people are too honest......since when was honesty a sign of madness?

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man in the future people will read me this will be known as internet prosa
Narcissism is however an unhealthy trate

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to have the chance to see what a quite normal person REALLY thinks
theres an element of oxymoron to this, whats wrong with being yourself in real life and finding out what real people around you think? why does a speciffic group of flight sim enthusiasts qualify as the best representation of normal people?

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i just sit here and let my thoughts flow and write as it comes
precisely....and you make the mistake of assuming others really want to hear it (symptom of your evident narcissism)

bongodriver 10-25-2011 11:58 AM

a 30/40 something year old mentally challenged guy who is on meds and lives with his mother, doesn't work for a living because it interferes with your weed smoking and obsessive need for attention from the internet, you would have us believe you take counselling from your sister because she is apparently a shrink (this has to break certain codes of medical ethics), you spend an unhealthy amount of time marvelling over a concept the rest of the world can take for granted i.e. the world is 3d and you achieve this by crossing your eyes and breathing through your mouth.

I re-corrected it for you, because censorship is not really correction.

raaaid 10-25-2011 12:11 PM

then why did you say i was not being authentic if you admit i say what i really think?

so you want to censor my ideas cause theyre stupid and im narcisist?

well if being proud to be as you are is being narcisist i am

and i am worse than any writter that writes thousands of pages on his own personal demons for others read them?

well if youre in an unbreakable plane and hit the ground you hit the floor of the plane and get smashed

now what happens if your sink in a human density fluid and the plane hits the ground but doesnt break?

raaaid 10-25-2011 12:18 PM

and most important if you think im an idiot( a narcisist attention hore)

man do as me if you have nothing nice to say say nothing

no point in insulting and sticking the finger in the eye

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if i write on gravity, in finity, perception i should stop psoting

if you bully without profanation post after post thats not problem

bongodriver 10-25-2011 12:32 PM

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then why did you say i was not being authentic if you admit i say what i really think?
Because I think the sinister nature of your need for annonymity is very revealling, on one hand you say you are here being your 'real' self but hiding behind an alias, and admit that you can't be honest in the real world because you are scared of what people really think. either way you are lying to everyone.

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so you want to censor my ideas cause theyre stupid and im narcisist?
No I don't want to censor you at all, your posts just annoy the hell out of me and I have chosen to be vocal about it, I could just ignore you........but it's a free world and you are entitled to have your critics as much as your fans.

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and i am worse than any writter that writes thousands of pages on his own personal demons for others read them?
Yes, at least these writers got off their asses and published books, their audience is less captive because they choose wether to purchase and read it, I know it is still a choice I can make wether I read your posts or not but there is still a fundamental difference.

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well if youre in an unbreakable plane and hit the ground you hit the floor of the plane and get smashed

now what happens if your sink in a human density fluid and the plane hits the ground but doesnt break?
they find your corpse encased in an unbreathable jelly like substance which is also encased in an over engineered aircraft that couldn't fly because it was just too heavy and had to be dropped from a mountain top where it was built because it was too heavy to transport up the mountain.

bongodriver 10-25-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354131)
and most important if you think im an idiot( a narcisist attention hore)

man do as me if you have nothing nice to say say nothing

no point in insulting and sticking the finger in the eye

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if i write on gravity, in finity, perception i should stop psoting

if you bully without profanation post after post thats not problem

Whats up raaaid? where exactly am I being nasty, I am not calling you any names, nor am I inviting you to make any in person meetings, you want to expose your feelings on the internet so at least be prepared to find that not everyone appreciates your input (the rest of us have to cope with it)

raaaid 10-25-2011 12:38 PM

well so what should i do so you stop nagging?

bongodriver 10-25-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354141)
well so what should i do so you stop nagging?

I'm not sure.......possibly nothing, I have a feeling you won't change, therefore I may or may not continue voicing my displeasure, ultimately I think I will stop nagging you and just leave you alone in time, god knows I have already been told how relentless you are and it's just not worth it, this is by members from your beloved ubizoo.

so don't worry raaaid, I'm sure you will have peace in the end and your endless verbalising will go unhindered.....but then again maybe I will make it my mission be your nemesis.......who can tell?.....welcome to the internet.

just for some perspective...I am not completely unique in my feelings on your posts.....I just happen to be alone in voicing it to this level.

Sternjaeger II 10-25-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 354100)
Steady guys...this is very OT (even on a raaaid thread) and Stern....be very carefull or you will be validating Winny's contribution, not so much feeding the troll but you are stalking him a bit.

Yeah, just don't like some of the "wise guy" comments I saw here.. but hey, I'm outta here, my opinion is that Raaaid is lost cause, and the fact that people treat him like some kinda pet is ever freakier..

Raaaid, for what is worth man, give up on the internet for some time, make some friends out there, the world is fantastic place to explore and discover, I'm sure you can do it.

raaaid 10-25-2011 01:39 PM

also what people dont realize its not a matter of calling my ideas stupid you have to prove why

think about it:

youre in an unbreakable container wich contains a fluid of density the body density, the fluid is breathable
how do you die if you die if you drop inside the conatiner from one km up?

you dont hit the wall, then how do you die?

you go from 1 atmosphere to 10000 how does this kill you if your breathing the fluid?

id love my points to be discussed not just name calling

Sternjaeger II 10-25-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354177)
also what people dont realize its not a matter of calling my ideas stupid you have to prove why

think about it:

youre in an unbreakable container wich contains a fluid of density the body density, the fluid is breathable
how do you die if you die if you drop inside the conatiner from one km up?

you dont hit the wall, then how do you die?

you go from 1 atmosphere to 10000 how does this kill you if your breathing the fluid?

id love my points to be discussed not just name calling

oh for the love of... your example and grammar don't make sense man!!

1) how can a fluid be of the same density of a body and be breathable?!
2) but even if you can, you would get killed in the same way you'd be killed without being in the liquid: going from 250km/h to zero when you reach the ground would cause an deceleration that would crush you, not to mention being in a thick fluid, which would crush you even more.

raaaid 10-25-2011 01:49 PM

1) how can a fluid be of the same density of a body and be breathable?!

salted water will do, the breathable part is another story


"but even if you can, you would get killed in the same way you'd be killed without being in the liquid: going from 250km/h to zero when you reach the ground would cause an deceleration that would crush you, not to mention being in a thick fluid, which would crush you even more."

youre inside a fluid, youre water my friend

on impact you just feel a huge increase of pressure as the impact, but if youre breathing the fluid thats like being a fish 20 km underwater

bongodriver 10-25-2011 01:52 PM

For your information raaaid there 'is' a fluid (sort of) that is purported to be 'human density' it is called ballistics jelly, they use it to test ballistics of firearms......i.e. they shoot it and see what a mess it makes, good luck breathing that mate.

in a nutshell....what Stern said.....it just doesn't need proof, it is that obvious.

By the way do you wan't me to explain the trick where it looks like the tip of the thumb is being pulled off? I have a feeling it still is the kind of thing that bemuses you.

raaaid 10-25-2011 01:53 PM

your confusing density with viscosity ;)

human density is around 1 thats why we float

as for viscosity there are low viscosity parts like the blood and high visocsity ones like the bones

Sternjaeger II 10-25-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354186)
1) how can a fluid be of the same density of a body and be breathable?!

salted water will do, the breathable part is another story


"but even if you can, you would get killed in the same way you'd be killed without being in the liquid: going from 250km/h to zero when you reach the ground would cause an deceleration that would crush you, not to mention being in a thick fluid, which would crush you even more."

youre inside a fluid, youre water my friend

on impact you just feel a huge increase of pressure as the impact, but if youre breathing the fluid thats like being a fish 20 km underwater

No, cos your body is not meant to resist such a sudden deceleration.

Let me give you an example, have you ever had a fly in your car when you're driving? why doesn't it stay attached to the rear windscreen? You're moving forward and in theory that what should happen if you're in mid air. The fly is in a fluid though, which is moving with you inside the car. If you hit something with your car, that fluid will have the same acceleration as everything else, with the difference that the thicker the fluid, the harder it will "push".


And don't believe for a minute you would survive 20km underwater either, even if you're breathing a water solution, unless you're in a pressurized submarine, the pressure is so big you would implode in a ball of gore.

bongodriver 10-25-2011 01:57 PM

and you are confusing humans with fish.....

Sternjaeger II 10-25-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354191)
your confusing density with viscosity ;)

human density is around 1 thats why we float

as for viscosity there are low viscosity parts like the blood and high visocsity ones like the bones

no, you float cos you have an air bladder inside of you, your lungs.

You see what I mean man? You don't have a clue of what you're saying.

bongodriver 10-25-2011 02:02 PM

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human density is around 1 thats why we float
1 what by the way? 1 flobtrubel?

raaaid 10-25-2011 02:07 PM

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...the_human_body

raaaid 10-25-2011 02:12 PM

check mate:

Space travel
Liquid immersion provides a way to reduce the physical stress of G forces. Forces applied to fluids are distributed as omnidirectional pressures. Because liquids cannot be practically compressed, they do not change density under high acceleration such as performed in aerial maneuvers or space travel. A person immersed in liquid of the same density as tissue has acceleration forces distributed around the body, rather than applied at a single point such as a seat or harness straps. This principle is used in a new type of G-suit called the Libelle G-suit, which allows aircraft pilots to remain conscious and functioning at more than 10 G acceleration by surrounding them with water in a rigid suit.
Acceleration protection by liquid immersion is limited by the differential density of body tissues and immersion fluid, limiting the utility of this method to about 15 to 20 G.[51] Extending acceleration protection beyond 20 G requires filling the lungs with fluid of density similar to water. An astronaut totally immersed in liquid, with liquid inside all body cavities, will feel little effect from extreme G forces because the forces on a liquid are distributed equally, and in all directions simultaneously. However effects will be felt because of density differences between different body tissues, so an upper acceleration limit still exists.
Liquid breathing for acceleration protection may never be practical because of the difficulty of finding a suitable breathing medium of similar density to water that is compatible with lung tissue. Perfluorocarbon fluids are twice as dense as water, hence unsuitable for this application.[2] On the other hand, although perfluorochemicals are denser than water, lung tissue floats within the PFC filled lungs, and if the lungs are not over-filled, there is no compromise in pulmonary or systemic blood flow.[52] Therefore, if the astronaut is immersed in liquid and their lungs are filled with liquid PFC, they should not experience adverse effects, in spite of the almost twofold density difference. Based on interviews with adult patients that experienced partial liquid ventilation, when they became conscious they were unaware that 20-30 ml/kg of PFC was in their lungs during recovery.



from:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing

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now 1st nonsense was not such

you see the alien filtered this secret tech to the wiki :)

now lets move on to next nonsense

gravity as inflation

how can you falsify that the real frame is not constant size as is a galilean but is an shrinking one

so a falling ball dont move its cog bothe earth and ball just inflate and eventually collision, but they dont really move in this shrinking frame

check the alien filtering here also :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfebjDSVlo

these are not things i copi past

first have the idea later find it :)

bongodriver 10-25-2011 02:37 PM

good for you.....now just keep it to yourself, if we want it we'll find it too,

which does beg the question, why didn't you just do a search in wikipedia before asking your bizarre questions here?

Check mate eh?

so you really were just trolling, you took all this trouble so you could pull a wiki page you had probably already read and go 'aha...I told you so, raaaid for teh win'

but overiding all of that, the same wiki pages explain clearly 'why' none of this is practical....so you just wasted everybody's time by not just puting a link to your wiki goldmine in your first post........sigh!!!

bongodriver 10-25-2011 02:44 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHp4D64mH8s

raaaid 10-25-2011 02:47 PM

posted it right as i found it

bongodriver 10-25-2011 02:49 PM

sure you did

raaaid 10-25-2011 03:04 PM

yeah i did you have my word of honour

i was searching on this image:

the astronaut is inside a fluid its in the legends:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EbGrSr06w_...FO+Ummite1.jpg

bongodriver 10-25-2011 03:19 PM

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yeah i did you have my word of honour
the word of honour of a person that cant be honest to people in his real life.....but expects us to believe in his alias despite admitting to being delusional and high on meds......

anyway you read it for yourself raaaid, none of this is practical or has a significant enough advantage to be considered for real world use, and the rest of it is just the rantings of a tin foil hat wearing nutjob.

raaaid 10-25-2011 03:24 PM

yet not yet nonsense since i reached by my slef the same idea of space engineers

bongodriver 10-25-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354242)
yet not yet nonsense since i reached by my slef the same idea of space engineers

if you say so raaaid.....you are an honorary space cadet.

so......when can we expect to really benefit from your genious? I'm serious raaaid....if you turn out to be the guy that cures cancer or saves the planet etc etc then I will eat my words and even kill myself to restore your honour...

alas all I see is a hopeless case of a man who is self obsessed and desparate for attention, the very reply I just quoted is pure evidence of narcissism on your part.

raaaid 10-25-2011 03:57 PM

oh man why dont you discuss my ideas instead of my person

should i say what do you appear like?

have you noticed lights swicth off as you pass by?

i bet they do

bongodriver 10-25-2011 04:05 PM

say what you like......I can take it.

I would discuss your ideas if they were credible or even 'your' ideas, you just trawl the net for weird pie in the sky theories and bring them to us like a dog with a dead bird looking for some adoration.

it wouldn't hurt you to be a more ivolved member in this forum by actually posting stuff that was genuinelly relevant from time to time, or just by being empathetic to other posts instead of the occasional injection of your delusional psychosis whenever a key word is used.

bongodriver 10-25-2011 04:06 PM

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have you noticed lights swicth off as you pass by?

i bet they do
we only have one planet, so yes I do switch off the lights as I leave a room.......your point?

raaaid 10-25-2011 04:47 PM

like i express freely what i think of gravity, thought original by me though later found it

and you express your freedom of speech calling me concited piscothic attention hore

if you beahve like that in rl i predict problems for you

like evry bully ive met over the net this last 10 years eventually would crack up and make a post on what a miserables lifes they had

bongodriver 10-25-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354273)
like i express freely what i think of gravity, thought original by me though later found it

and you express your freedom of speech calling me concited piscothic attention hore

if you beahve like that in rl i predict problems for you

like evry bully ive met over the net this last 10 years eventually would crack up and make a post on what a miserables lifes they had

No I call you an attention seeking narcissistic troll, it is you who freely claims to be delusional (which is a psychosis), I can make my statement in the comfort that you display a clear lack of empathy to all the posters who occasionally mention their lack of enthusiasm in your meaningless posts, yet you continue regardless (another very narcissistic trait)

we all have a sad story to tell (not that you would care for anybody else), but my life is far from a miserable one.

so you say I'm a mean old bully......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnXOr8GvKcQ


I'm sure one of your fans will be along to hug you soon.

raaaid 10-25-2011 06:07 PM

plz discuss my ideas not my person

i won on the method to satnd high g, in the ubizoo they know this must have been my fifth try on this :)

what about the inflation model to explain gravity?

but oh wait you cant tell density from viscosity

bongodriver 10-25-2011 06:13 PM

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plz discuss my ideas not my person
sorry but I find your character much more fun to question than paying any attention to your crackpot ideas, I shall continue as I am....sorry.

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i won on the method to satnd high g
no you didn't.....remember, if it was proved to be practical then you might have a case.

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what about the inflation model to explain gravity?
someone who cares or is remotely interested 'might' show up at some point.

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but oh wait you cant tell density from viscosity
Well I can in actual fact, just like I know a human from a fish.

raaaid 10-25-2011 06:23 PM

im beginning to wonder if im feeding the troll

Sternjaeger II 10-25-2011 06:24 PM

Raaaid,fill up a tub with jelly,get in and hope out of a building in it. Let us know how it goes man.

bongodriver 10-25-2011 06:25 PM

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in the ubizoo they know this must have been my fifth try on this
I forgot to quote this one, but again it shows the level of your narcissism, you tried and failed 5 times to convey a subject which nobody cared for, this really should have been a 'it's time to quit' moment but you just cant stand not being listened to, you feel you must be heard at all costs, really I'm doing you a favour here raaid....I'm giving you attention why are you taking it so negatively?

Sternjaeger II 10-25-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354297)
im beginning to wonder if im feeding the troll

..it kinda feels like IamNotDavid managed to crack Raaaid's account..

bongodriver 10-25-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 354297)
im beginning to wonder if im feeding the troll

it's a real quandry isn't it....which one of us is really the troll.......I honestly don't know myself.....shall we see where this take us?

IamNotDavid 10-25-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 354300)
..it kinda feels like IamNotDavid managed to crack Raaaid's account..

It looks like you're conversing with yourself to me.

raaaid 10-25-2011 06:40 PM

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSG5ANAdIp4

bongodriver 10-25-2011 06:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCeIAqeWq3Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9jRD...eature=related

raaaid 10-25-2011 07:02 PM

do you expect me to watch that bs?

did you know 1 in four is a socilaized psichopath, im just a harmless SLIGHLTY deluded guy

the clinical example is picasso

the tipical bully who lead to sucide several women

bongodriver 10-25-2011 07:05 PM

the main difference is......you are trying to make yourself look more cuddly tha Charles Manson, 'I'm a simple little person with mental disorders....you can't be mean to me.....I'm far too loveable'

bongodriver 10-25-2011 07:06 PM

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do you expect me to watch that bs?
Why not......why is it so different from what you expect the rest of us to watch?

I believe your reluctance to watch any of it is listed as one of the symptoms in my videos.......

raaaid 10-25-2011 07:12 PM

the difference bteween you and me its i post beautifull things and you post scarry bs and insults

man i bet you dont even have a job like being all day here insulting me

guess what i worked 3 hours today

so what if im nuts which i admitt

what do you suggest about it

that i should behave more normal

i wont think youre trying to make me insult you to make me ban

youre like an annoying fly that aports and changes nothing but its that annoying

and you could never be my nemesis cause ive got two universities degrees while you cant even tell density from viscosty except by bad guess

you see i can also insult without bad words ;)

bongodriver 10-25-2011 07:40 PM

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the difference bteween you and me its i post beautifull things and you post scarry bs and insults
that first video was actually quite a nice song.........

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man i bet you dont even have a job like being all day here insulting me

guess what i worked 3 hours today
well I admit I'm not going to prove that one easily, I do have a job, I am getting alot of time off at the moment.......but at least I'm on a salary :)

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so what if im nuts which i admitt

what do you suggest about it

that i should behave more normal
Behave any way you like, I'm not here to tell you otherwise, I have my own reasons for being here and I don't need to share it....just enjoy the ride why don't you.

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i wont think youre trying to make me insult you to make me ban
feel the anger...let the hate flow through you and join me on the dark side Luke.....I mean raaaid

are you frightened to get banned? I guess you will have to endure a short spell with no internet attention, or maybe it will break you narcissistic goals of being the unbannable troll....hmmm!

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youre like an annoying fly that aports and changes nothing but its that annoying
I couldn't have put it better myself....good one

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and you could never be my nemesis cause ive got two universities degrees while you cant even tell density from viscosty except by bad guess
have you now....impressive, a well educated unemployed mental case, those university degrees must be really paying for themselves, I seem to be hitting some nerves so maybe my goal of being your nemesis isn't so far fetched.

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you see i can also insult without bad words
it's a clever trick I learned from internet trolls


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