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reflected 04-23-2011 08:01 AM

The new QMB
 
...is absolutely awesome, I only wish it would work.

Right now, it doesn't.

- I still can't edit/select loadouts and beltings - well, I can, but they don't work
- visual weathering doesn't work either

However, you're on the right path ;)

Phazon 04-23-2011 08:29 AM

I like the new missions and the new pre-flight briefing and flightplan screen. It looks like it will be possible to add "slides" to show intel such as aerial recon photos. :)

BigPickle 04-23-2011 08:44 AM

More variety in missions is great but i have to be honest i prefered the old IL2 way as it gave more freedom of choice, but I love the set missions so the work has been done for you its nice.
Only problem is France now makes my pc stutter and freeze like crazy.

Kankkis 04-23-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPickle (Post 271412)
More variety in missions is great but i have to be honest i prefered the old IL2 way as it gave more freedom of choice, but I love the set missions so the work has been done for you its nice.
Only problem is France now makes my pc stutter and freeze like crazy.

Factoryarea on coastal, if you mean it it was stuttering really badly last patch too.

reflected 04-24-2011 03:23 PM

Skin selection doesn't work either. If there's a mission where the player skin is set, it will jump back to it no matter what I select. If it's a default skin, I can't disable markings.

Friendly_flyer 04-24-2011 04:48 PM

I suppose it is a matter of the double folders (skin folder in the game folder and in the steam forlder, possibly same problem for belting and weathering). My guess is that the the features are are included in the beta-patch to give an idea of how the game is supposed to look when finnished.

Feathered_IV 04-24-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reflected (Post 272307)
Skin selection doesn't work either. If there's a mission where the player skin is set, it will jump back to it no matter what I select. If it's a default skin, I can't disable markings.

Same here. Perhaps some of the Rise of Flight team can pay them a visit to show how to make a proper GUI.

Strike 04-24-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 272395)
Same here. Perhaps some of the Rise of Flight team can pay them a visit to show how to make a proper GUI.

yes after all, neoqb learned it the hard way

Zorin 04-24-2011 05:13 PM

Seriously, what was wrong with the old IL-2 GUI? It was a bit boring and techy, but it worked and was intuitive. The new one doesn't relate to the WWII theme, isn't intuitive or actually works as intended. Very annoying...

RocketDog 04-24-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 272395)
Same here. Perhaps some of the Rise of Flight team can pay them a visit to show how to make a proper GUI.

Harsh.


But fair.

JG52Uther 04-24-2011 06:42 PM

All we need is the old il2 '46 QMB.
Nothing wrong with that at all!

Doc_uk 04-24-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reflected (Post 271385)
...is absolutely awesome, I only wish it would work.

Right now, it doesn't.

- I still can't edit/select loadouts and beltings - well, I can, but they don't work
- visual weathering doesn't work either

However, you're on the right path ;)

Same here icant change load-outs or skins:confused: but it is a nice touch

ElAurens 04-24-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 272469)
All we need is the old il2 '46 QMB.
Nothing wrong with that at all!

Agree 100%

And the IL2 GUI.

reflected 04-24-2011 08:23 PM

How ironic...we got the crappy sounds and AI from IL2, but not the great QMB :P

reflected 04-24-2011 08:24 PM

Wait: somehow, the gun loadouts work now! Good job, one step closer to getting wat I paid for ;)

Plt Off JRB Meaker 04-24-2011 09:23 PM

The QMB seems to be stuck,the same Polish 302 squadron is all you can choose from if flying Hurris.If flying Axis forces it would appear that half the missions can only be flown using Italian markings.

I have to say this part COD is awful,it just does'nt work,it's quite hopeless,let's hope they fix this soon.

What seems daft is that they then spend precious update time making more missions for it,......for Pete's sake get the main mission builder working first,it just makes sense to fix this first,does'nt it,before expanding on it?:confused:

ICDP 04-24-2011 09:35 PM

Please please, PLEASE don't use the god awful IL2 1946 QMB, yes it was better than the current one but only slightly. It was good for a quick dogfight generator for target practice but a good QMB needs the ability to create missions with take-off and landings etc.

Also don't use the old IL2 GUI, it was boring and had no period feel to it (no neither does the new one). I suggest creating a new one with WWII character to it, EAW had a great feel to its GUI. Have a look at the EAW manual to jog your memories. http://vztimg.exent.com/Prem/products/190450/manual.pdf

Barracks, Hangars, Squadron rosters, Squadron Leader's office etc, the ability to turn on the radio. Also add the ability to pick who flies the missions from the roster and so on. You know, the kind of things sims were doing 15 years ago when immersion was still something sim developers strived for. Something the entire IL2 series has lacked in every single iteration... oh wait, this doesn't bode well. Another IL2 sim that caters to the online mass... er I mean tiny minority :(

CharveL 04-24-2011 09:41 PM

If I never see an IL2 drop-down list again I will be happy.

Even with the crappy Win95 windows they're currently using, but I expect it's just another one of those details they've used as placeholders for functionality until they can whip something better up.

And QMB improvements aren't likely too far off anyway.

SEE 04-24-2011 10:31 PM

Any changes you make in QMB (except weapons) have to be saved as a custom mission with new name to take affect. QMB currently loads the dafault file first......:confused: then offers you the choice to make changes......too bloody late..:evil:..its already loaded the damned default MIS file and does not ammend the data. Sure they will sort it!

ElAurens 04-24-2011 11:57 PM

I don't care if the GUI looks like a bridge simulator for the Startship Enterprise, as long as it is easy to use and works.

Currently the GUI and QMB are neither.

OH, and how about functional skin selection online and offline with noseart files and the specs to create same.


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