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|450|Leady 10-10-2012 09:53 PM

Hi Team Daidalos

Would it be possible to look into the gunsight possition on the P47-D10 and P47-D22? It is quite apparent that this is set much too low. The sight glass is mostly filled with engine cowling and the virtual pilot drops his head possition down as he moves his head forward to look through the gunsight. There is no way to use full sight deflection!

No pilot would go into combat with his sight setup like it is in the razor back P47's. If I was a CO and my P47s were delivered in this condition I would order the crew chiefs to make new sight brackets before I cleared these aircraft to fly!

The sight needs to be moved up so at minimum the bottom of the sight glass clears the top of the engine cowl. Obviously the location of the pilot's head possition will need to change too when he looks through the sight.

While we are at it the early razor back P51's could use the same sort of loving.

Cheers and thanks in advance.

Leady

|450|Leady 10-10-2012 10:18 PM

All the evidence here.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-Mk-III-Forums

Cheers

Leady

RegRag1977 10-11-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by |450|Leady (Post 468327)
Hi Team Daidalos

Would it be possible to look into the gunsight possition on the P47-D10 and P47-D22? It is quite apparent that this is set much too low. The sight glass is mostly filled with engine cowling and the virtual pilot drops his head possition down as he moves his head forward to look through the gunsight. There is no way to use full sight deflection!

No pilot would go into combat with his sight setup like it is in the razor back P47's. If I was a CO and my P47s were delivered in this condition I would order the crew chiefs to make new sight brackets before I cleared these aircraft to fly!

The sight needs to be moved up so at minimum the bottom of the sight glass clears the top of the engine cowl. Obviously the location of the pilot's head possition will need to change too when he looks through the sight.

While we are at it the early razor back P51's could use the same sort of loving.

Cheers and thanks in advance.

Leady


+1

Amen to that request!

So sad that we seem to be very rare, we that like these two legendary birds :(
BTW a new P47 cockpit will be built by TD, hopefully there will be a new one for the razorbacks too.

IceFire 10-11-2012 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by |450|Leady (Post 468334)
All the evidence here.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-Mk-III-Forums

Cheers

Leady

Didn't realize the P-51B/C were so wrongly modelled. So add the gunsight to the wings and we'll get that bird sorted out!

Fighterace 10-11-2012 09:18 AM

Since we are discussing new cockpits for the P-47's.....Is it possible to add the M or N variants for 4.13 or is that crossing into "Northrop Grumman territory?"

gaunt1 10-11-2012 11:25 AM

+1 for P-47N. But "M" isnt too important I think. A "C" would be much better.

jermin 10-11-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by |450|Leady (Post 468327)
Hi Team Daidalos

Would it be possible to look into the gunsight possition on the P47-D10 and P47-D22? It is quite apparent that this is set much too low. The sight glass is mostly filled with engine cowling and the virtual pilot drops his head possition down as he moves his head forward to look through the gunsight. There is no way to use full sight deflection!

No pilot would go into combat with his sight setup like it is in the razor back P47's. If I was a CO and my P47s were delivered in this condition I would order the crew chiefs to make new sight brackets before I cleared these aircraft to fly!

The sight needs to be moved up so at minimum the bottom of the sight glass clears the top of the engine cowl. Obviously the location of the pilot's head possition will need to change too when he looks through the sight.

While we are at it the early razor back P51's could use the same sort of loving.

Cheers and thanks in advance.

Leady

The gunsight reticle of all airplanes in the game was slightly lowered after the 6 DOF was impletemented in 4.11. Just as you said, no real pilot would enter combat with that kind of setup.

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IceFire 10-11-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighterace (Post 468438)
Since we are discussing new cockpits for the P-47's.....Is it possible to add the M or N variants for 4.13 or is that crossing into "Northrop Grumman territory?"

Bingo... but years ago we did manage to get Oleg to give us the P-47D high boost model which is closer to the P-47M in performance.

Luno13 10-11-2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by |450|Leady (Post 468334)
All the evidence here.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-Mk-III-Forums

Cheers

Leady

I just want to mention that in the P-51 B/C the cockpit coaming extends horizontally, but in the P-51D the coaming is sloped and is taller nearer to the pilot.

Therefore, relative to the pilot The gun-sight is at the same height in both planes. In both planes in Il-2, the gunsight view needs to be raised.

So, to reiterate: Raise the gunsight and the pilot camera view in the P-51B/C. Raise the whole cockpit model including gunsight, and pilot camera view in the P-51D (or raise the edge of the coaming if cockpit is already correct).

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The gunsight reticle of all airplanes in the game was slightly lowered after the 6 DOF was impletemented in 4.11.
I don't recall this being the case.

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Additional notes
Daidalos Team has fixed over one hundred cockpits in 4.11. The most glaring holes have been fixed, some smaller ones are still there. We believe those are harmless and should not give unfair situational advantage or spoil your visual enjoyment. Nevertheless, we would like to ask the IL-2 community to provide us with feedback regarding the 6DoF and report any 6DoF related bugs in cockpits that you consider important. We will fix them in 4.12.
Only TIR is full 6DoF. All other controllers can't be used to control the Roll of the camera and are therefore just 5DoF. We feel that camera Roll is just an eye candy and it's introduction for all controllers would only cause unnecessary complications without increasing your situational awareness.
If you find that you are unable to move the head, you are most likely in gunsight view
([SHIFT][F1]). This is intended behavior.

1984 10-12-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RegRag1977 (Post 468237)
Another thing that could be corrected easily is the location of oil smoke for La7: it appears exactly there where the La5 radiator would be. Problem is that La5 and La7 cannot share common location for the smoke effect since the La7 had its radiator located far behind under the fuselage and not directly under the Ash82 engine as is now.

oh, +1...


and i think, need to correct damage model, especially for laggs and yaks...

i mean, we have no damage of oil cooler for yaks (in general and if i'm not wrong, we have only damage of prop pitch (or cylinders?), and fuel leak for yaks)... for laggs we have strange damage of oil cooler (very rarely, if i not forgot), and, maybe no damage of prop pitch... plus, strange damage of fuel tanks only from cannons fire (if not wrong)...

maybe, something more? (only without water coolers, it's problem for all aircrafts)...


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