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Wolf_Rider 04-25-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Falstaff (Post 414326)

A quick re-cap:


>>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<





yes, that's right Falstaff...

Force10 04-25-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 414633)
>>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<





yes, that's right Falstaff...




A 7 year development time is "early"? Ummm....ok. Meanwhile back on the planet Earth.....

Wolf_Rider 04-25-2012 08:42 AM

yet, some wonder.....

gonk 04-25-2012 11:20 AM

Ok...back to Crystal ball........ it is getting clearer...clearer....cleeearer...

"We are all very busy and the patch is just not quite ready this week....here are a few more pics....enjoy.... The patch will be ready 30May2......" damn crystal ball has faded...


Oh well.... :-P

Falstaff 04-25-2012 01:45 PM

Wolf Rider said..

>> >>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<

yes, that's right Falstaff... <<

Can anyone top this for legendary laughable lunacy?

(Ptolemy was right....what Copernican revolution...?)

I think it's going to take more than a sticking plaster to fix this logic....

Luftwaffepilot 04-25-2012 07:29 PM

My crystal ball says:

Next info about the patch will be sth like ... "I have to tell you is very bad news ..." (hickups, artefacts, slowdowns... Be creative!)

Save this post so you people can't pretend I haven't told you so. ;)

Wolf_Rider 04-26-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Falstaff (Post 414748)
Wolf Rider said..

>> >>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<


yes, again... that is correct


Quote:

Originally Posted by Luftwaffepilot (Post 414926)
My crystal ball says:

Next info about the patch will be sth like ... "I have to tell you is very bad news ..." (hickups, artefacts, slowdowns... Be creative


well, unfortunately (for some) software RnD is like that... oh, if only this was a perfect world and all a programmer had to do was to pour a whole lot of letters, numbers, and punctuation marks into a hopper and then go around to the side and wind the "Make My programm" handle - churning out the perfect bug free program.
Wouldn't that be just peachy?

Falstaff 04-26-2012 09:19 AM

Wolf Rider said:

>>yes, again... that is correct<<

You mean the customers forced the botched release...? As in your original point? Or are your revising this with a change of emphasis?

I wouldn't blame you if you did. Your first point is so mental Mary it is not worth replying to.

Ben

Falstaff 04-26-2012 09:28 AM

Wolf Rider said:

>>well, unfortunately (for some) software RnD is like that... oh, if only this was a perfect world and all a programmer had to do was to pour a whole lot of letters, numbers, and punctuation marks into a hopper and then go around to the side and wind the "Make My programm" handle - churning out the perfect bug free program.
Wouldn't that be just peachy? <<

Indeedy.

But no-one has suggested that, however hard you try to mince their words in your happy hopper.

Equally, programming may be art as well as science, but what about project management, scheduling, work-flow, and knowing-what-the-heck-you-and-your-programmers-are-doing-even-that-quiet-bloke-in-the-corner..?

This forum always has a number of people telling everyone else how difficult it is to code a flight-sim, and bow their head in reverential silence, but people manage it. They also manage the project, the alpha-beta-release-candidate testing, the localisation and publishing etc etc

Above all, the successful ones manage their customers to a greater or lesser extent.

How you manage things when things go wrong is also telling.

I suggest you flesh out your peach a little more.

Ben

PotNoodles 04-26-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 414633)
>>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<





yes, that's right Falstaff...

Do you seriously believe this? You don't think it could be because they needed the money to continue with the development? But lets say you were correct, you aren't, but lets say you were.. Then why is it that they haven't released the patch due to public pressure? Please don't tell me it's because they have learn a lesson when it's their job to know about development and business to be in this industry. The only reason why they won't release the patch right now is because it would harm more profit given the fact the game has received bad reviews..Nothing to do with what we want and when we want.


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