Messer...

http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?t=2231

if i remeber all correct, it's B17 G

Oh well! Il-2 comes to its end! As long as there is no B17 flyable, its not finished... but now...

I certainly hope not :(

We need D, E, and F versions! ;)

by this moment, pilot cockpit in very good condition... not very close to final, but work slowly goes forward.
i dont know what Messer want to do, have he enough strenght for made other position ( gunners and navigator) or not... but pilot cockpit he want finish and send to DT... if they can take only one position in the plane...

BTW i saw sketches tail gunner position...

may be some way B17 will come in to a Game!)

one more question, ball turret from B24, they are the same as those that were placed on B17? )

Sita

Yes the Ball turret is the same A-3 Sperry Turret for the B24 and B17. The supports is different as is the gunners aiming hand hold. There are also small differences in the inside which could be edited to reflect a proper A3 used in the B17G.

As I was looking trough wiki, the D is a good point to start. Cause isnt the C and E possible out of the D, without large rework?!

All what is different, are the engines and the Ball turret is missing in the other versions?

The D had also two different ball turrets, one from Bendix and the later one from sperry

I think the bendix was just the remote one that used the periscope. The B17E also had it. It survived as the B17G chin.

Why the interest in the C, E Backbird? There were only 9 Cs built, and I think all stayed stateside as trainers (I have that PoM, which also covers very early D). From what I've read, the E wasn't much different from the D, and I think most of those were used to train crews as well.

I'm not against spinning off for some other versions. I'd love to find time to make a Lib I (with the 20mm gun pack) and Lib II (with the BP turrets), especially the sub chasers. Not much in the way of targets for those though (well, shipping of course). Besides, we have no info on the innards of the short nose of the LB-30 and Lib I. By the way, the panel for the C is more like the LB-30 and, I'm guessing, the Lib I. There isn't much in the panel that could be salvaged from the D. Not impossible, but definitely would need some effort.

I'd also like to do the H Pathfinder.

i ask about ball turret because, maybe if work will go well , may be some how, you can give it ( turret i mean) for this B17G ... or DT by they self include ball turret into B17 ...

or some other kind partnership under work of B17?)