Very good. I knew that La would be given some serious thought, and so I had to give something not well known but fairly easy by look. :P

H8K emily? best seaplane of the war followed by the pby catalina

I always thought the short sunderland was a good seaplane :D

I LOVE seaplanes :-P Pure fun! That Emily would make an awesome bass boat.

Correct, love flying that thing on 1946.

Gotta love the Catalina though :grin:

Yeah, Emilies make great targets for my patrolling Wildcats, Hellcats, Buffalos, and any other US Navy/Army Air Corp. plane I can think of that's fighter capable. :cool:

Catalina wouldn't be a bad plane, just to fly around in. (Doesn't even have to be war time, just flying around the Pacific and Atlantic etc. would be so much fun in one of them.)

haha yea they sure do make one hell of a target.

thats pretty much all i do in the catalina anyway lol just fly land fly land fly land. its just so fun landing on water ;)

your forgetting the Supermarine Walrus!
but what is this?
http://tinyurl.com/yacz7ga

Stranraer?

Yes

Sweet!! wouldnt of known that really to be honest but your mention of supermarine previously gave me a clue :D

w-w-w-win

restarting thread again.

http://i47.tinypic.com/nl1l6a.jpg

t38 talon ?

T45 Goshawk?

nope, its not a T-38, but Its namesake does have talons.


Edit: Ah, well done Foz you got it.

ugly plane... ^^

very similair to the BAE Hawk, so quite easy to spot :D

Yup. looks identicle exept for the beefed up landing gear and arrester hook.
Stinger, I Certainly wouldn't call the Hawk ugly.

Ok I will find another plane to post because foz doesn't want to.

http://i45.tinypic.com/eqa0yr.jpg

Looks like a prowler...

but surely cant be, not with it doing mid air refuelling

A6 intruder?

Incorrect, the answer was Two A6 Intruders. I'll let you have it though because I'm kind :P

Haha, I forgot about the "tanker" I worked it out from the inside shot :D I dont think I can put a pic on using mp iPod.. Have another one :)

hmmmm ok.. You owe me one though ;)

Lets look into the future with this one.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2yljpmp.jpg

KA-6D is the one passing the gas. Some other A-6 topping off.

that'll be the mitsubishi f-3:grin: (future stuff tweaks my geek)
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god they have come along way since the zero

not really-they're still pinching everyone else's ideas...just a little less blatant than the Chinese
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What was "pinched" with the zero?

the zero was based on a howard hughes design which the japs "acquired"
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So the H-1 racer had a 2,000 mile range, 3100 fpm climb and could shoot down any allied fighter in existance until 1943?

I love the H-1, gorgeous airplane, but it's not a fighter. To say that the Zero (or the FW190) had anything more than a superficial resemblance to it is unjustified. Might as well claim that any metal airplane with flush rivets is also a copy of the H1.

Here's a link y'all might dig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKqLe...eature=related

Sounded nice.... couldn't actually see it once it took off though! haha. Looked dog ugly though :(

Ha! I guess it's not much of a video, definately has a "home movie" quality to it. But you really think the H1 is ugly? It's beautiful! I just gotta find a better video or pic or something to help you appreciate its awsomeness......;)

not every copied design has the exact same performance....:rolleyes:

it wouldn't have been the first fighter based on a racer design around that time, although countries tended to base the fighters on racers designed in their own country e.g. spits and macchis

Its a well known part of Japanese ingenuity to make the best use of derivative design...they do it better than anyone. Just ask any mx5 or lexus owner....
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Wasn't the H1, just one of Howard Hughes racers from the 30s that he crashed in or something? It was in LA in fact, that he crashed. Anyway, I don't think it could have been fitted to be a fighter, would have had to overhaul it, and such.

And Macchi was a racer before WW2, and than was told to start making fighters for Italy. They still do make some sea plane racers I think?

and trainers...

I'm not saying the racers were fitted as fighters, but racers largely influenced the fighters in a number of cases...
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I think virtually all of the great piston engined fighters were influenced by 1930's air racers, why not accuse them all of "pinching"? To claim that the Japanese simply "pinch" other designs is an extremely simplistic viewpoint and ignores a great engineering accomplishment. Very few modern aircraft can perform as well as the Zero on as little fuel. Give 'em a little credit why don't ya? :P

I've already used words like "ingenuity"...and alot of the zeros performance was due to it lacking pretty much any safety equipment or luxury items (like radios) which pilots/ground crew would strip out post build to keep the weight down.

If credit is due its the pilots that fought in them. Great plane but bit of a death trap...
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I agree with you there, but we should also remember that the Zero only became a "death trap" after it had been in service for several years. Early in the war it was virtually unstoppable, and the allies never did produce a carrier based fighter that could match the Zeros range.

You also have not produced any evidence to indicate that the similarities between the Zero and the H1 were anything more than superficial. Clearly the Japanese were impressed by the H1. So was Kurt Tank. So what?

Ok, so maybe I'm getting a bit too defensive here. Point is I would LOVE to own a Zero as a peacetime toy. I would have to modify the cockpit some to get my 6'5" American sized body to fit, but what fun! And as efficient as the Zero was, I could even afford the gas bill :P

They do somewhat have the same characteristics as one another Long sleek body, and small. But you have to also realize, that most planes during certain decades look quite similar (kinda like cars of the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s etc.). I couldn't find anywhere on the net, that said Mitsubishi got their idea or design from the H1, or even that they looked at the H1 to make a fast plane. Though it does say Kurt Tank's FW design group did get somewhat inspired by the H1.

And what about the Russians? Look at your picture Soviet, it's a fast airplane with a round engine! No way the inferior Soviet engineers could have come up with that on there own. They must have copied Howard Hughes!

What? If you hadn't realized, most Radial engine planes have rounded off noses because the engines aren't straight, and if they were just flat (like early I-16s etc.) they just cause drag, rather making the plane more streamline.

funny- I didn't even mention the engine...start with the tail empennage, the wing planiform similarities...
nevermind, you've made your mind up already...

now as I believe it's my turn to set a plane pic to be identified you can jolly well shut up and pay attention :grin:
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http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:K...birdalley</a>.

easy one
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b-24?

nope
interesting answer cos I always thought there was a passing resemblance....(possible pedantry in 3,2,1....)
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PB4Y-2 Privateer?

nope
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it looks more like the PB4Y-1

Bet its wrong

it's neither
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damn, ahhh well, i would keep guessing but i gotta go out :(

laters...I'll leave you to puzzle...
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its not that tricky...
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Ok im back from town, now lets see if i can get this one right. (Feel compelled to do so)

Gonna copy the image into a photo editing software to see if i can see it a little more clearly, Then its Mine ;)

is it british?
if so the hallifax?

Pics really tiny (or is it just me being dumb?) but it looks live an avro shackleton.

Hahaha, Oh im going to kill you! :evil:

Ive just spent about half hour cleaning the image up to see it better and Just came back to see you had beaten me to it!

ah well Its a good job i like you ;)

LOL sorry mate. I saw your above post and just had to have a guess. I was quite easy to tell to be honest. At a glance you can see the resembelance to the mighy Avro Lancaster, so narrows it down a little.

Just for you though.... i'll let you take credit and post the next pic ;) lol

Haha, nah its alright you go ahead and post it ;)

At first i glanced at it and immediately saw the twin tail and thought B-24. While i was out i was thinking it was one of the Avro series but just kept thinking i cant be that obvious. Theres always next time ;)

Now i just gotta get yours correct and im done :grin:

Hmmm...

Ok im not to good at this so will make it a fairly easy one just for you spitfire :D lol. Unless someone gets it before you haha.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1983/PLANE.jpg

Ahhh easy FINALLY one i can look at without looking into detail ;)

That would be the Hawker P1040 (Prototype) :grin:

yup :D

told you it would be nice and easy lol.

Ok try this one, equally as easy -

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...otherplane.jpg

Ahhh nearly had me there at a first glance That would be a Spiteful XVI ;)

Yup :D

At first glance you would think its a spitfire. But then when you look closely you can see a few little things that are slightly different.

Precisely ;) twas a good post i'll give you that. hmmm now its my turn

Here is my submission ;) easy for some

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/a...ire/Ohyeah.jpg

No idea mate :(

Looks like the osprey. Maybe a prototype?

Yes, it was an experimental V/tol aircraft

xc-142?

Correct, Good job :grin:

took a while :( i had to play on the Osprey approach and take it from their and see where it lead me. Wasn't easy. Modern jets/helicopters really are not my thing haha. They just sound loud and boring (except the huey) i love the sound of a merlin or griffon.

Well thats a given ;) who doesn't eh

The Germans/Luftwaffe :P :D


lol

lmao, Ahhh you certainly know how to bring a smile to my face :grin:

Foz would probably love the sound of this one, even though it's obviously not a Merlin :grin:

I'll post 2 pics just because it's so purty

No tries yet? Ok, here's a hint: Think "water cooled homebuilt". Still nothing? Think "Oldsmobile V-8 powered homebuilt". If that still doesn't work, try "worlds best looking and meanest sounding Oldsmobile V8 powered homebuilt" :-P

Valiant refuling an other Valiant? (or is it a Vulcan that were inside?)

Correct, not sure about the camera plane, think its a vulcan from the window shape though

Yeh i was thinking that but camera angles can be distorting and the valiant is pretty similar (part from an openable windo i think?).

Try this:https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircra...f85-goblin.jpg

And this :evil:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/...aea0b8.jpg?v=0

Pogo?

Nope!

Goblin "parasite" fighter

I think the biplane is a Grumman FF-1

well the byplane looks like an americonised i153

isnt that and raf roundel on the side?

yes but we used mustangs

With the way the engine is placed, and the body all together; I'd have to agree with Flynlion that it's a Grumman FF-1 Biplane. If not, then it's got to be a F2F-1 or 2, but the engine isn't fitted right to be either of those.

It's definitely American, because I don't know of any British biplane that was made for the US Navy in the late 20s early 30s. :P

EDIT: And I think those are actually Canadians checking it out? They apparently did use them for a time.

Well done. I picked them as they are both nicknamed "goblin" :D

Ha! US navy pilots called the FF-1 "Fifi", but I think it was the Canadians who called it the Goblin. I do love that picture "hmmm, what did I forget this time?"

So am I the only one on the forum who likes homebuilts? Nobody wants to try a guess at my pics?

It's a brilliant pic. I seriously don't know mate..

fair point duely noted.

I'm with P51 on this one mate. I've been racking my brains and i have no idea what it is either!!

You can ask me anything to do with the cold war era and most ww2 stuff but kit planes are strait over my head lol

So I've stumped the Foz and P-51? Then my work here is done.....

It's called the Jaguar, by Prowler Aviation. I first saw (and HEARD!) one fly at the Oshkosh fly-in many years ago and have wanted one ever since. Check out their website:

http://www.prowleraviation.com/

I love homebuilts. Military stuff is fine but anyone can build a nice airplane if they spend enough money. Homebuilts are made on a limited budget with craftsmanship, dedication and LOVE. Guess I shouldn't give the Prowler people too much credit since they obviously pinched their ideas from the Spit, Mustang and a dozen other warbirds from the 40's (sorry Juz1 I couldn't resist).

Who wants to post our next plane?

maybe to easy...


http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...gedplane-1.jpg

Thats got to be a P38 Lightning??

flynlion.... nice info! takes alot of dedication and time and effort and not to mention money to build such a thing. Im sure if someone offered me a flight in one i wouldnt say no ;)

yes, a p38...
your turn.

Discovered in wales, UK ;) i hope im thinking of the right one.

Im no good at posting the pics, i just like guessing :D someone else can post again.

wales? really? im guessing they removed it, otherwise id take the weekend away to go down and visit

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz16/FOZ1983/ybw.jpg



Sorry guys, i just had to do!! :D

What is it? lol.