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mcdaniels 08-26-2012 11:34 AM

Hi,
cause this thread is going round the ATAG Server. With the latest BETA Patch I only see one server in the server browser.

where is ATAG?

Where are all the other servers like repka?

Warhound 08-26-2012 12:12 PM

Is it possible you are looking at Multiplayer/Lobby?
That part only has self-hosted games..for the dedicated servers check out Multiplayer/Client.

SQB 08-26-2012 12:19 PM

I'm going to put up a poll around here sometime about this, but in the meantime:

For those of you who get this drastic slowdown in multiplayer near enemy aircraft, what happens if you do something similar in singleplayer?


For me the issue only occurs in MP!!

lensman1945 08-26-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SQB (Post 456926)
I'm going to put up a poll around here sometime about this, but in the meantime:

For those of you who get this drastic slowdown in multiplayer near enemy aircraft, what happens if you do something similar in singleplayer?


For me the issue only occurs in MP!!

+1

I have exactly the same problem as described in Multiplayer.

Single player is fine for me...even with numerous enemy planes I get a smooth 50 - 60 fps.

GF_Mastiff 08-26-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lensman1945 (Post 456932)
+1

I have exactly the same problem as described in Multiplayer.

Single player is fine for me...even with numerous enemy planes I get a smooth 50 - 60 fps.

find this folder= *:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Beta-il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\redist\DotNetFx40_Client <run that program.

turn off shadows.

and turn off skin down loads.

lensman1945 08-26-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff (Post 456959)
find this folder= *:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Beta-il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\redist\DotNetFx40_Client <run that program.

turn off shadows.

and turn off skin down loads.

..roger that..

I think I ran that application before at some time, but will run it again.

Thought I had skins off..but just checked, beta has obviously turned them back on again ( thanks for the prompt to check, cheers!)

will try the shadows too

thanks for suggestions

vranac 08-26-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix1963 (Post 456901)
Now for some discussion:
Vranac and others reckon it's worse for lower power CPUs - and I do have a Q9550 @ stock 2.83 Ghz. But I also have an AMD 6970 2GB (actually it's a flashed 6950), so texture manipulation alone should not seem to be the problem.


EDIT!!!!!! ARGHHHHHH, I've just discovered Custom Skins download is ON post installing the last Beta Patch, please ignore the above until I've tried it again!

I'm pretty shure that those stutters appear due to slow processor speed.
I experienced it only once with 3 110s and few spits over I12 target,
but I think that was due netcode-server problem that was shown by Bliss
with some graphs from server.
I was in similar situations many times and never experienced that before and after.

CloD is very CPU dependent game like old il2 in which I could see big difference between CPU on 3.5 GHZ and 3.0 GHz especially when there is lot of pilots on the server and lot of flak and objects.

This is good test but lacks CloD or Arma II because games they tested are not CPU dependent that much.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/23246/1

Also they could OC AMD processors to show the scaling with CPU speed increase.

Phoenix in my opinion your Q9550 is still strong if you try to push it close to 4.0 GHz as much as you can.If you have branded PSU, midrange mobo, and some aftermarket cooler ( nothing fancy, CM Hyper 212 will do) it isn't so hard to do.

http://www.scan.co.uk/images/shops/i...king_guide.pdf

For AMD users, most of the newer CPUs will easily go on 4.0 GHz with some more voltage on Vcore from 1.39-1.42 V because CPUs are different.
Also it is important to OC the northbridge frequency to 2600 MHz with slight
bump on the NB voltage.

http://www.overclockers.com/the-impo...the-phenom-ii/

I will help anyone who encounter some problems, I had C2duo, played with phenoms, I'm on 2500K now.

ATAG_Bliss 08-26-2012 09:12 PM

It's gotta be the netcode. Try doing the same tests offline with tons of AI and you'll find it's not nearly as bad. In theory, the server should be doing the majority of the work as far as cpu computations and the like when running a server - (if it's like other MP games) while the clients need the GFX to be able to draw them all out. Basically in the same situation, offline should be harder on your system than online - which in a lot of circumstances with this sim it is. But you get a bunch of player flown planes close together and it goes to pot. Gotta be the netcode. One day I hope it actually gets looked at.

SlipBall 08-26-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 457015)
It's gotta be the netcode. Try doing the same tests offline with tons of AI and you'll find it's not nearly as bad. In theory, the server should be doing the majority of the work as far as cpu computations and the like when running a server - (if it's like other MP games) while the clients need the GFX to be able to draw them all out. Basically in the same situation, offline should be harder on your system than online - which in a lot of circumstances with this sim it is. But you get a bunch of player flown planes close together and it goes to pot. Gotta be the netcode. One day I hope it actually gets looked at.


This is almost certainly the case...if you have the original game IL-2 manual, it warns an overload by too much AI objects interrupting the communication channel, for on-line play. :)

phoenix1963 08-26-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix1963 (Post 456901)
EDIT!!!!!! ARGHHHHHH, I've just discovered Custom Skins download is ON post installing the last Beta Patch, please ignore the above until I've tried it again!

Well, tonight 6 or 7 Spits tool off simultaneously from Manston - and my fps dropped dramatically - with Custom skins not downloading.

So the problem is still there and it does affect Red 'planes.

I'll try Vranac's overclock.

I am using textures at High though, anything else looks dire.

56RAF_phoenix


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