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Eldur 04-06-2011 01:27 PM

Without hacking a 32bit Windows (/3GB switch in boot.ini), a single Process can just allocate 2GB max. Usually it's even less, somewhere around 1,3-1,5GB. Never have seen a game with more RAM usage except a MMO with a nice memory leak growing up to 3,6GB (on a 64bit system). Could have been more, I just stopped raising it :D
64bit Systems are up to 6 years old, it's time to get some 64bit support nevertheless :D

Hecke 04-06-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ARGH (Post 254184)
why is anyone calling for 64 bit version? the only reason for 64 bits is to address more than 4 gig of memory. if the game does not use past the 32 bit memory limitations then the 64 bit version won't do anything.

Yes, but why not take the advantage of loads of fast RAM instead of annoying the slow HDD (even SSD is slow compared to RAM).
Wasted possibilities.

ARGH 04-06-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldur (Post 254187)
Without hacking a 32bit Windows (/3GB switch in boot.ini), a single Process can just allocate 2GB max. Usually it's even less, somewhere around 1,3-1,5GB. Never have seen a game with more RAM usage except a MMO with a nice memory leak growing up to 3,6GB (on a 64bit system). Could have been more, I just stopped raising it :D
64bit Systems are up to 6 years old, it's time to get some 64bit support nevertheless :D

if you are on a 32 bit OS then demanding a 64 bit application will do nothing for you. since your system cannot alocate more than 4 gb of ram (actually more like 3.5gb with a single gpu or 3 gb with SLI) and the fact that windows 7 or vista enjoys gobbling up at least 1 gig of ram with "nothing" running that usually leaves you a max of 2.5gb of available ram for a game. if you run win xp 32 bit then you have another 500 megs of ram so the total goes up to 3 gb.

if the game starts chewing past your available ram then it will be using the hard drive's swap file or crashing running out of memory. a 64 bit executable won't save you from this.

32 bits can address up to 4 gigs of ram. that is more than enough for this game and any game out there. what you need to do is upgrade to a 64 bit OS and have at least 6 gigs of ram on the system itself and you will not have any issues with ram usage in the game. 64 bit does not mean the game or executable runs faster or you get more fps.

Buzzer 04-06-2011 01:57 PM

Good work! :o

But nothing on the buildings/houses and shadows that caused so big fps-drop...?

Hecke 04-06-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzer (Post 254233)
Good work! :o

But nothing on the buildings/houses and shadows that caused so big fps-drop...?


Read this: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20055

"1. Performance increase. Over terrain, the two things that slow things down the most are trees and buildings. We are currently in final stages of testing optimized buildings that almost double the FPS over London on a test machine."

bongodriver 04-06-2011 02:01 PM

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Here's what we've done as of the end of the day today.

1. Buildings are as fast as we can make them. That's it. I doubt we can improve them more.
and this from the 4th april update

Buzzer 04-06-2011 02:11 PM

I know the 4th April update.
Thats why I wondered why there was nothing on the 5th...but I see now they say :"What we’ve done today"...
ie the buildings were optimized yesterday already.

Thought for a moment this was what would be in the patch, but guess building-improvement is there already then...

Great work gents!

facepoppies 04-06-2011 02:40 PM

I know I'm new here, but maybe it would actually help a little if people stopped angrily berating the devs. They're doing what they can, but it's going to take time no matter what. Hollering for things that you want isn't going to help anything get done faster.

bongodriver 04-06-2011 02:43 PM

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I know I'm new here, but maybe it would actually help a little if people stopped angrily berating the devs. They're doing what they can, but it's going to take time no matter what. Hollering for things that you want isn't going to help anything get done faster.
I'm new here too, so are many of the complainers, you have every right to make this wise statement.

Kankkis 04-06-2011 02:44 PM

Clock is 18.40 in Moscow, i think no betapatch today:(


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