The MSFF2 has twist handle rudder, which works well. You will have to have a pedals, if you do not have twist handle for rudder. You can't real fly and fight well enough without good rudder control.

I use CHProducts FighterStick,ProPedals,ProThrottle,and MFP programmable keyboard. This is expensive setup, but exceptional quality... no blinky lights and slick little lighted panels and junk.

Thanks for trying Sokol1.

The pots are like the orange coloured pot in the first photograph of the second link. They are 10mm x 11mm x 3mm thick. I don't know the resistance value but I can measure that. I read that link (using google translator! ) and I think (!) he has given up but then perhaps suggests using round magnets, like fridge magnets, and the Hall sensor.

I don't know enough about how the Hall sensors work to replace a potentiometer or what 'type' or 'value' the sensors should be. It's a great idea so I'll have to study it.

THIS JOYSTICK IS AWESOME!! :-)

Just received mine, installed, configured, removed the throttle detents (I don't like it) and tried to shot down some planes... never have been so easy!! Never will buy a cheap joystick again!! Right now I'm just trying to map all the buttons I need...

Alberto

Well, after a week of use i noticed a thing. Is this little play around the center an issue or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjA9t7Jlb7Q

thanks

Well there are two things here.

First, if its a new stick I'd say it shouldn't be doing that and to contact Saitek or their support company Madcatz and get their opinion. The cone, cup and spring idea is prone to that with wear. My X52Pro does it a bit and I have had it a couple of years now. By the way I assume it is not 'sticky'?

Second, if you look in the Windows Games Controller programme and the crosshair is moving throughout that 'loose' physical movement you are at least getting an input response to the movement, it is not mechanical play giving a 'dead zone' so if you can live with the 'feel' of it your stick input is not lost. I've got used to mine and that input results in aircraft response so I don't worry about it and my springs are pretty relaxed now so there's no noticeable 'step change' in feel when moving onto the spring pressure.

sorry, forgot to tell that the crosshair is not moving when i do this :(

This is a new stick? An X52Pro?

THAT'S WRONG! Kick it back to Saitek. The Hall sensors in the stick do not lie.

Mine is the same except the crosshair moves at the slightest touch. You can see where the freeplay occurs, partly in the lower cup that supports the spring and where the shaft enters the yoke. Yours should be sensitive to the slightest movement too.

When I get time I will have a look at the construction and see if the freeplay can be reduced or eliminated.

It's like the cup's hole it's too big for the shaft, here is the play. Probably if it was smaller then the stick was "sticky". No, mine isn't sensitive at those movements... I already wrote at the saitek support and waiting an answer.
p.s.
Is the FSX demo still included in the package? I got it also, is probably an old stock or what?

G940 reversal bug is handled by new firmware release:

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/PC-Gam...le/td-p/542496