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IceFire 08-22-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racoon (Post 455627)
Please make all ordnance types and names in English (for the English version) so we would know what to choose and what is available!
It's very annoying trying to figure out the type of bombs or rockets when playing campaigns with non Anglo/American air forces since their types are only mentioned in the original language of the country you're flying (but written with English alphabet).

Cheers.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say? Most of the bombs and rockets use a numerical or letter designation. So they aren't listed as "rocket" but rather HVAR (a US type of rocket) or BRS-132 (a Russian type of rocket). Just what they are called. It's not really in English or any language (except for technical language) just the same as the P-51 or La-5FN aren't really translated...they are just designations.

If you use Wikipedia you'll be able to look these up directly. My thinking is that if they were abstracted it would actually be harder to discover what was what. Maybe because I know the weapons so well now I don't see what you mean...

SPAD-1949 08-24-2012 12:29 PM

There is a big one: We have 6DOF now, many of us uses Track IR or similliar, there is a POVMod (please implement), so why do we still need the Shift+F1 keys for the reticle or aiming view?
If it is possible to implement the option to switch automatically in shift&F1 mode if you move your head close to the screen in a defineable vicinnity, 70cm or 60cm or even closer.

RaptorRage 08-24-2012 12:36 PM

I'm wondering if it would be possible to have a stats page similar to the quick mission mode for the other gameplay modes such as the multiplayer dogfight or coop modes. A method to see things like number of kills and such on the current session or over time for those gameplay modes. Also if it was possible to log multiplayer mission results or stats to a text file that could be printed.

Regarding kills in general also if there was a more straightforward scoring option in the multiplayer modes instead of the points scoreboard that at times can seem difficult to decipher. Instead having a simple enemy/friendly/shared kills and maybe number of deaths/bailouts score table for each player able to be displayed in multiplayer modes during the game.

Racoon 08-25-2012 03:37 AM

Hi EJGr.Ost_Caspar and sorry for late reply.
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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 455638)
Do you have examples, what to change? We use the designation, that the ordnance had in war.

Example: HE in English is the abbreviation/designation of two words; H for High, and E for Explosive, I know it because I speak English.

But, for the German aircraft, for example, we have the The AB, SC, SP, W.GR, all of which abbreviations of their respective German words.

For example the SP ordnance:
S stands for some German word starting with S followed by another German word starting with P!

Unfortunately I don't speak German, so I can't tell what those two words (starting with the S and the P) suppose to be!:confused:

Same goes for the Russian abbreviations such as; FAB, VAP, RS, AO, BRS, PTAB-2.5, AJ-2, M-13.:confused:
Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 455638)
We cannot 'invent' names for it.

Nor did I asked for "inventing" names, I'm talking about the German and Russian abbreviations of their respective German and Russian words which represent different types munitions in German and Russian languages.

All I'm asking is to have the German and Russian abbreviated words into their English counterparts ;), just as it's done for the Japanese ordnance (English words i.e designations used instead of their original Japanese ones).

Cheers.

idefix44 08-25-2012 04:31 AM

Founded on the web in less than one minute...
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...es-mean-Forums
I think that you'll be able to find a tuto to learn how to scroll in the page linked above... :rolleyes:

OberstDanjeje 08-25-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Racoon (Post 456620)
Hi EJGr.Ost_Caspar and sorry for late reply.

Example: HE in English is the abbreviation/designation of two words; H for High, and E for Explosive, I know it because I speak English.

But, for the German aircraft, for example, we have the The AB, SC, SP, W.GR, all of which abbreviations of their respective German words.

For example the SP ordnance:
S stands for some German word starting with S followed by another German word starting with P!

Unfortunately I don't speak German, so I can't tell what those two words (starting with the S and the P) suppose to be!:confused:

Same goes for the Russian abbreviations such as; FAB, VAP, RS, AO, BRS, PTAB-2.5, AJ-2, M-13.:confused:

Nor did I asked for "inventing" names, I'm talking about the German and Russian abbreviations of their respective German and Russian words which represent different types munitions in German and Russian languages.

All I'm asking is to have the German and Russian abbreviated words into their English counterparts ;), just as it's done for the Japanese ordnance (English words i.e designations used instead of their original Japanese ones).

Cheers.

Google those abbreviations ;)

I like those historical name ;)

T}{OR 08-25-2012 12:40 PM

Just a small request, copied over from BFs forums:

can we force / limit the squadrons on the DF server in 4.12 like we do with airforces?

Racoon 08-25-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OberstDanjeje (Post 456659)
Google those abbreviations ;)

It's like buying an import car in U.S or U.K and find the owner's manual is in it's maker's original Korean, Japanese or German language and if you asked for the manual in English, the dealer's response would be: Google it yourself!
Quote:

Originally Posted by OberstDanjeje (Post 456659)
I like those historical name ;)

But an English description in front of foreign abbreviations would be a nice addition so the player would know what munitions are at his disposal rather than closing the game and searching them in a dictionary or the Google.

By the way "those historical names" aren't names, they are abbreviated foreign words, and most of them are still in use (in their respective countries), so they are as "historical" as their English counter parts are such as; AT i.e Anti Tank, HE i.e High Explosive, which were used then and are still in use today.

Cheers.

Grach 08-26-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racoon (Post 456740)
It's like buying an import car in U.S or U.K and find the owner's manual is in it's maker's original Korean, Japanese or German language and if you asked for the manual in English, the dealer's response would be: Google it yourself!Cheers.

Straw man argument. This is a WW2 historical flight sim not a car. It presupposes some knowledge or interest in the field.
That said, if you can't work up a basic interest to do some research when you come across something you don't know about, then why are you bothering, really? I quite enjoy researching and learning new stuff, but that might just be me.

Alternatively you could always follow idefix44's link and print a copy out.
Quote:

Originally Posted by idefix44 (Post 456624)
Founded on the web in less than one minute...
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...es-mean-Forums
I think that you'll be able to find a tuto to learn how to scroll in the page linked above... :rolleyes:

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but the tools and information are all out there and not hard or time consuming to find or use. To completely reject these smacks of something that starts to look a bit like laziness.

It has been a long time since I read the pdfs that come with the game, but aren't all these weapons systems decribed in there anyway? The car manual so to speak?

Spudkopf 08-26-2012 03:10 AM

Not specifically aimed at 4.12, but it would be nice if the damage model sequence especially those related to wing or engine nacelle hits could trigger the dropping of one or both of the under cart, as this seems to be quite a regular occurrence in a lot of archival footage.

In regards to munitions naming debate above, I for one like it the way it is and when I'm in doubt I look it up.


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