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shelby 12-19-2014 08:09 PM

Missing years and text
http://s26.postimg.org/n09f2tpcp/201...9_22_59_25.jpg

http://s26.postimg.org/6b7z6wsrd/201...9_23_01_00.jpg

Tolwyn 12-19-2014 08:19 PM

I don't agree with this.

You have to get your plane back to base so the "guncam footage" can proved you killed something.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendigo (Post 706905)
Yes, that's what I mean, as soon as the player's plane is destroyed, kills are not credited though the player is still alive (bailed out). Can it be fixed by attributing points to the "pilot" not his plane? Thanks a lot!


shelby 12-20-2014 02:31 PM

Missing mirror in the mc200 series cockpit

Here is a bug in hurricane models when you gear up or down the wheels
http://s26.postimg.org/ux332jfkp/201...0_18_07_06.jpg

Vendigo 12-20-2014 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolwyn (Post 707791)
I don't agree with this.

You have to get your plane back to base so the "guncam footage" can proved you killed something.

This is completely irrelevant.
First, what "guncam footage" was ever used by a Zero or an I-16?
Second, in the game you still get a score if you ditch your plane in sea and your guncamera drowns.
Third, I just rammed a B-29 and I had my wingman as a witness but I didn't get a kill because my plane crashed before B-29 did.
So I pointed out a simple problem of scoring system employed by the game's engine. I believe this should and can be fixed.

sniperton 12-20-2014 09:07 PM

In Il-2, the problem is that the kill is credited to the plane and not to the pilot. If the attacking plane crashes before the attacked plane does so, then the kill is lost for the surviving pilot who in RL could still claim that kill.

Treetop64 12-21-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelby (Post 707798)
Missing mirror in the mc200 series cockpit

Here is a bug in hurricane models when you gear up or down the wheels
http://s26.postimg.org/ux332jfkp/201...0_18_07_06.jpg

What, specifically, is the bug you're mentioning...?

shelby 12-21-2014 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treetop64 (Post 707807)
What, specifically, is the bug you're mentioning...?

I hope to see it better from this screenshots

http://s26.postimg.org/sme7pujkp/201...1_13_13_47.jpg

http://s26.postimg.org/idlqk0vix/201...1_13_18_50.jpg

Pursuivant 12-22-2014 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendigo (Post 707799)
This is completely irrelevant. First, what "guncam footage" was ever used by a Zero or an I-16?

Agreed. Different nations used different standards for kill claiming, and for nations where kill claims were hard to verify, it could take years, or even decades, to get confirmation for a kill.

In some ways, as frustrating as it is, the current kill scoring system is incredibly generous since it usually counts planes that crash as a result of damage that isn't immediately fatal. Realistically, those kills would only count as "probable kill" or "damaged" claims.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendigo (Post 707799)
So I pointed out a simple problem of scoring system employed by the game's engine. I believe this should and can be fixed.

Yep. I've pointed out one simple way to fix this problem. Other folks have also made good suggestions. It seems like a simple programming fix, so no reason to to do it.

* Assign kills to the pilot, not the plane.
* Assign kills as soon as a plane catches fire, break up, has a pilot & co-pilot kill result, or when the AI prompts the crew to bail out.
* Instantly assign kills when a plane ditches or force lands (i.e., anything but a wheels down landing at an airfield).

shelby 12-22-2014 10:20 AM

the same on FW and tempest models
http://s26.postimg.org/qv3mdwtqx/201...2_13_06_44.jpg

majorfailure 12-22-2014 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelby (Post 707823)
the same on FW and tempest models

You mean the asymetrical retraction of the landing gear? Probably intentional and historically correct. Don't know for Hurri+Tempest, but for Fw I'm 95% sure, and AFAIR also Zero and Bf109.

Yes, seems to be so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93SkZqXFWg4


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