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mondo 08-19-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 91113)
Therefore I wouldn't call the Mosquito a serious rival to a Fw190 as a fighter, but the ability to double as a reasonable fighter is impressive in a strike plane.

I agree and I think we need to remember the context that the Mossie was used in.

As a bomber either high or low level it was extremely fast, its cruise was faster than most other twins were capable of at combat power.

Once spotted information had to be relayed back to a fighter station, the fighter had to get of the ground and be vectored to the target. With most bombers flying at 180-200mph that was easy, with a Mosquito cruising at 320mph it could be 50 miles away from the point it was spotted and therefor getting a fighter to that plane was very hard. Especially since they would change course often to avoid being vectored into.

Even for a 190A4/A5/6 which were the fastest common Luftwaffe fighters the Mosquito would face it (by the time of the A8 it was religated to defence of the reich from high level bombers) would be extremely hard for them to make up that 50 mile gap as well as find those planes, especially of they are below or avoiding radar (the British knew of the locations of the German radar stations in Europe).

It wasn't perfect though and they did get shot down. Although there safety record is one of the best of the war.

David603 08-19-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by juz1 (Post 91208)
Big Generalisation...4 hispanos and 4 brownings makes for quite a big bounce..

as for the luftwaffe

"Special Luftwaffe units (Jagdgeschwader 25 and Jagdgeschwader 50) were formed to combat the Mosquito attacks, though they were rather unsuccessful." .....

just saying...:grin:

Just saying, I wouldn't pick this for a dogfighter. 4 Hispanos are indeed a lot of firepower though, so if you were flying a strike mission and saw a fighter that hadn't seen you.........

I read about those two units, weren't they formed on Gorings direct orders after Mosquitos bombed a parade he was addressing? And then disbanded after not scoring a single kill against Mosquitos.

Still, I'm thinking in context of the game when it comes to intercepting Mosquitos, because there is a lot less choice of routes and usually only a couple of targets, which makes the intercepting fighters role much easier. Still, if aircraft choice can be locked to a particular timeframe on any one map they might be rather good for playing Strike on a mid war map.

juz1 08-19-2009 12:34 PM

granted in a game environment 1v1 if a 109 or 190 gets into position on a mozzie it wouldn't be pretty...in fact it would probably be quite clinical..:(
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Almighty Blighty 08-19-2009 07:06 PM

Number one: It was the quickest craft to ever fly until 1943, so stuff that up your pipe and smoke it with your single seat fighters and inteceptors. ;)
German plane designers must have been fuming, having their purpose built interceptors being beaten by a wooden plane built in a shed.

Number two: It was originally designed as a bomber, so to be able to double up as the complete opposite is a massively handy thing- as i don't think that the FW190 could carry a 4000lb bomb load while it's sister mark carrys 4 20mm cannon and 4 303 rifle calliber guns. EDIT: And another sister mark carrying a 57mm cannon blowing ships out of the sea.

Number three: It was designed so it could be built by people with lincences to build chairs... so the military factories could carry on with making the spit and the lanc..etc.

Number four: How many other planes, especially WWII planes, could do 50 different tasks with only minor changes done to the aircraft?

Soviet Ace 08-19-2009 07:09 PM

That's why you need to just stick with the good ol' Yak-3. Fast, reliable, nimble, and all around just a good looking plane.

EDIT: Plus the Yak-3 was made out of wood and tubes.

Almighty Blighty 08-19-2009 07:19 PM

could it do more than just 1 job... preferably 50?

Soviet Ace 08-19-2009 07:22 PM

It could do three: Dogfight, Tank destroyer (Later models), and bomber. The mosquito is a nice plane and all, but really I think it's to overrated, and a hassle. Really a plane should only have 2-3 jobs that it can preform.

The Doctor B 08-19-2009 07:44 PM

But the Mossie is absolutely gorgeous!

If you have ever seen one in real life you will never forget it. Fast, agile, purposeful and my god does it sound good!!;)

Almighty Blighty 08-19-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 91378)
It could do three: Dogfight, Tank destroyer (Later models), and bomber. The mosquito is a nice plane and all, but really I think it's to overrated, and a hassle. Really a plane should only have 2-3 jobs that it can preform.

So you would rather spend one hell of alot of money designing many new planes, then buying them- instead of just develpoing existing ones for alot cheaper and just as effactive. then when it is designed you can convery existing planes instead of having to waste money on buildin new ones

Almighty Blighty 08-19-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Doctor B (Post 91395)
But the Mossie is absolutely gorgeous!

If you have ever seen one in real life you will never forget it. Fast, agile, purposeful and my god does it sound good!!;)

Agreed, people believe that the merlin is one of/ if not THE best sounding engine ever...but two... mmmmmmmmmmm


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