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SlipBall 12-16-2012 10:27 PM

Hood, I think the main concern I have with ROF is there is not enough time for objects development. My second concern is that the CEM will not be there...I'm sure ROF will pull it off and be successful at first, but I think it will wear off for the users rather quickly, if Clod can be revived they will leave it.

Hood 12-16-2012 11:50 PM

Slip, I share every possible concern you may have, and more besides.

I also know that CLODs potential was never realised when ROFs was. I've got ROF. and like it a lot but WW1 isn't as much of a pull for me as WW2. As it is for me ROF is now a work of art but one that doesn't tug the heart strings.

My point is that we don't know what we'll be getting so there is no point comparing A to B when we're getting C. If I had to bet on it I reckon we'll get something that is more like CLOD than ROF but not quite CLOD. CLOD-lite with everything functioning. It maybe better than CLOD.

If what we get is high fidelity FM/DMs and graphics that look great then we all win. If we get more then we're lucky indeed. I can see CEM being good enough (thankfully I fly blue when I can so I have the automommandervthingy to do everything for me).

I'm rambling now so I'll just repeat that it is pointless A fans bashing B fans and vice versa.

Hood

SlipBall 12-17-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hood (Post 488563)
Slip, I share every possible concern you may have, and more besides.

I also know that CLODs potential was never realised when ROFs was. I've got ROF. and like it a lot but WW1 isn't as much of a pull for me as WW2. As it is for me ROF is now a work of art but one that doesn't tug the heart strings.

My point is that we don't know what we'll be getting so there is no point comparing A to B when we're getting C. If I had to bet on it I reckon we'll get something that is more like CLOD than ROF but not quite CLOD. CLOD-lite with everything functioning. It maybe better than CLOD.

If what we get is high fidelity FM/DMs and graphics that look great then we all win. If we get more then we're lucky indeed. I can see CEM being good enough (thankfully I fly blue when I can so I have the automommandervthingy to do everything for me).

I'm rambling now so I'll just repeat that it is pointless A fans bashing B fans and vice versa.

Hood

All good points Hood

ZaltysZ 12-17-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 488556)
Hood, I think the main concern I have with ROF is there is not enough time for objects development. My second concern is that the CEM will not be there...I'm sure ROF will pull it off and be successful at first, but I think it will wear off for the users rather quickly, if Clod can be revived they will leave it.

Look here: http://riseofflight.com/en/about/team - this is current RoF team. Some of them are forced to be Jacks of all trades (in sense of workload). If partnership between 777 and 1C results in adding more people to team, productivity will probably increase by large margin.

Low Flyer 12-17-2012 06:30 PM

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JG52Krupi 12-17-2012 06:38 PM

You forced my hand Low Flyer...

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That happened yesterday no wing struts and the wing is still attached, its expected when dealing with games this complex.. Cut out the trolling.

vranac 12-19-2012 12:24 AM

Sorry Bearcat , I didn' saw your response in this thread, but I saw you trashing
another one that is locked, so please answer here ( or ask your bosses )
am I right ?

Will BoS be dx9 game based on outdated DN engine with poor quality cockpits and graphichs,dumbed down CEM, cartoonish graphichs, with no opportunity to make
online war(even with some guys tried wery hard to do it ) or not?

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Once again the brilliant all seeing carguy has spoken.. That is not what the issue is on those boards. The issue comes up when instead of requests or suggestions for features we get demands .. and people trying to tell the devs what engine is better and which one they should use etc etc etc.. When the mere mention of one sim or the other sparks a mine is bigger than yours snotfest of epic propotions.. it has happend over and Over and OVER.. and again... just to riterate for those who may have been in the bathroom or texting when I said it last.. The only reason I allow a bit more examples of what the RoF engine is about is because THAT is the engine in a modifed form that .. according to what the devs have said.. MULTIPLE TIMES IN MULTIPLE PLACES that they are using.. The are NOT using the CoD engine and the only thing that may come from CoD are models.. but I am not 100% sure on that. Now who knows.. maybe the took what they could from the CoD engine and already tweaked the DN engine and even as we speak are busy little bees working on BoS .. again I don't know.. but what I do know is that there will be no pi$$ing contests about whose sim is better.. There will be no griping and groaning about how Luthier did this or 1C failed at that over there.. NONE. If you want to talk about the features of CoD that is fine..
That thread is locked.

I beg you for the answer:rolleyes:

Force10 12-19-2012 06:33 AM

Here is a sample of an optimised DirectX 9 title that looks better than ROF and COD IMO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUu4SV3GjVw

klem 12-19-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Force10 (Post 489045)
Here is a sample of an optimised DirectX 9 title that looks better than ROF and COD IMO

Well, its nice and full of action but there's something missing. I don't think the terrain is as good as CoD and whilst the aircraft models and cockpits are really good I think maybe lighting effects could be better. It may just be Dx9 limitations (I don't know) or the transfer from game to video through Fraps. Some hi res screenshots might tell a different story.

(It's something I am considering getting for the P51D while we wait 2 years for BoS. If they added a FW190 I'd buy both immediately.)

startrekmike 12-19-2012 09:22 AM

I think you would find that DCS World somewhat lacks in terrain quality (mainly due to it's size and the fact that it is a older map that has been retextured as time has gone on).

While it lacks in that, it more than makes up for it in both the aircraft and cockpit models, I would even say that the lighting is vastly superior to CloD, while it may not be DX10, they manage to use DX9 to better effect.

The DCS titles are in a league of their own at this point, CloD looks good but DCS World just looks much more polished and the overall feeling is of a more professional product.

Still, they show what you can really do with DX9, hell, they have made it so that you can both fly aircraft (multiple types on the same server) and command and operate land forces (with the combined arms addon), overall, DCS World proves that all this jabber about DX9 being horribly outdated is false.


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