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WTE_Galway 01-21-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaruda (Post 382545)
Come one people, this is a 10-year-old-game, it does not look good by today's standards, nor is it developed (like official addons and stuff). Why all the hate towards mods? Is it bad someone is working hard to give you additional content for free? Is it bad someone is spends their free time to make the game look better and you don't pay for it?

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You really do not want to restart the whole mod arguments again.

Lets just agree that ...

- mod users think anti-modders are recalcitrant luddite Oleg fanboys stuck in the 1990's who have no idea what a modern game should be like and want to kill off all the great advantages mods bring
- mod haters think modders are childish thrill seeking 1337 gamers wanting a 3D first person shooter wanting to fly f18s in 1943 over the Antarctic against nazi UFO's using the me262 cockpit with no regard for historical accuracy trying to turn a great historical sim into an online cheating points fest


As such the two sides can never agree ... just leave it be.

AKA_Tenn 01-21-2012 11:31 AM

if you want a mod-less game, don't stick with IL-2, start supporting cliffs of dover... this engine, as much stuff as their adding, is already passed its limitations doing things it was never designed to do, and now requires a computer as fast or faster than cliffs of dover requires to do way less both in terms of physics and graphics.

the reason people still play il-2 is because it has such a broad selection, most of which is directly because of modders. or because their computers are as old as the game...

however, 1 bad onion can ruin a whole bag of onions, same goes with modders, you could have 100 modders adding a lot of value to the game that everyone loves, and then one single person ruins the fun for everyone...

so mods are good, if they can be controlled server side... but since flight models are client side i don't see that being an option.

on that note... maybe they could just re-encrypt the flight models, and leave the rest open for whatever, that way if someone wants to add their own content they could, but not mess with the flight models of already existing content... and that would allow servers to have more control too.

Storebror 01-21-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 382499)
I really don't understand why you feel you have also purchased the right to access the source code of the game along with your copy of the game itself

That's an unfortunate misunderstanding. I didn't say that any modder "purchased the right to access the source code" and never intended to do so.

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 382499)
The fact that DT are not obstructing modders in any way should be enough.

As a matter of fact, one part of the code which has been accessible for modders before (despite any legal claims) isn't anymore now. That much for the reason of asking for source code of that single part. The question has been answered, no need to argue about it anymore.

Best regards - Mike

Robo. 01-21-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mmaruda (Post 382545)
(...)nor is it developed (like official addons and stuff).

Just for the record, it is still developed. 'Official addons and stuff' is exactly what you got with 4.11 ;)


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