Apart from any other overpowered tactic, plants do have a -100% fire ress, so using them in battles, where the enemy lineup is focused on firely units, isn't that great an idea. Not to mention 0% psyh ress (Hagrid will boost this to 10%).

This is confirmed. I took out the turtle and spider, then joined the humans/elves/dwarves/orcs, then I killed the driller/lizard lord/kraken/toad. I checked the school of Gloom, it did not unlock the new units. So this quest is indeed very hard to do. :)

Speaking of unlocking the new units, I killed K'Tahu for the elves and while I did get new units/items/spells from most of their buildings the living tree DID NOT give me new units. KBScanner says I should see a ton of thorn and plant units from there, not to mention the diploma of botany... lucky for me the orc lands unlocked 22 royal thorns, so at least I could increase that to full stack with Sacrifice. But with no diploma of botany? Sigh... good thing I was going for royal thorns/repair droids/black knights/bone dragons, so its not that big of a loss.

So did anyone else experience this problem? Should I be doing something else aside from killing K'Tahu to unlock the living tree higher tier units?

Restarted many times, until i got ents. Turtle went down in turn 18, spider and the frog in turn ~60. I was optimistic and tried K'tahu. I got lucky, because he summoned 3 brontos and as i was cornered with one hex between them, they burried and blocked everyone else from attacking me:) I was able to bring his health down to 4000 and then he decided to move next to me. Because he pushed me with his attack near brontos, they unburried and with the help of couple gorguanas 'mark of blood', i was defeated. Maybe i would have survived with teleportation, but who knows.

So, tried Kraken next. I used flame arrow, magic spring, stayed between tentacles and attacked directly with ents. To cut a long story short, fight ended in turn 155. And of course no-loss.

There you go :) You have proven that ents can also cut it. So far plants and trolls take the cake for the 4 no-guild boss battles quest.

mhh i didnt know about that quest before i joined one already ... it sucks ;)

omg

Don't encourage this ffs lol

He didn't say what was to be gained from the school of gloom either btw

pity

It doesn't matter. Already had completed this little campaign with that strategy, so it was the last thing to achieve.

I have yet to achieve that either - in all my games so far the main area provided nothing of consequence and I was forced to choose an ally in a hurry.

Kings_Bounty_Hunter, don't OMG just yet. My 4-royal-thorn strategy against the Kraken ended around turn 350. This goes to show that a battle should take as many turns as necessary.

Finally finished this one, Impossible Paladin game, no-loss. Level 70 with a score of 1190.

Attached are the screenshots of the highlights pages, as well as the "Baal" fight (20 rounds battle).

Also attached is my quickest boss fight ever; took out the Toad boss in ROUND 1. :grin: