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InfiniteStates 10-08-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riceball (Post 109525)
FYI: Only parts of Europe recieved content as a pre-order bonus.

Unlike code, art assets are hard to conditionally add to a build on a build switch (#define), so I wouldn't be surprised if the actual disk contents were the same for all regions, with just the code modified via localisation switches to access different assets. I wonder if all the European language files are on every region's disks also?

Ancient Seraph 10-08-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 109543)
Unlike code, art assets are hard to conditionally add to a build on a build switch (#define), so I wouldn't be surprised if the actual disk contents were the same for all regions, with just the code modified via localisation switches to access different assets. I wonder if all the European language files are on every region's disks also?

There was a post about a German guy buying the UK version, and found his BoP was completely german until he switched his PS3 language to english.

Benrizz 10-08-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 109543)
Unlike code, art assets are hard to conditionally add to a build on a build switch (#define), so I wouldn't be surprised if the actual disk contents were the same for all regions, with just the code modified via localisation switches to access different assets. I wonder if all the European language files are on every region's disks also?

Personnally I bought my game through Ebay in the UK to pay 20% less thanks to their currency.

And I had the surprised to have the game In French (Which is terrible due to the false English/ Soviet accent of the actors lol)

So I guess European games do have all european languages on the disk

InfiniteStates 10-08-2009 03:55 PM

With all due respect, you're missing my point :)

I already know that all EU languages are on the EU version's disk. What I meant was, I wonder if all EU languages are on a US version's disk. You probably won't be able to test it though, because a US build of the code will disregard the bit in an EU build that reads the system language and loads the appropriate files accordingly.

I don't think I made that any clearer lol. Oh well...

Suffice to say, I'm not surprised the DLC content is on every disk despite it only being an unlock in the EU.

Raw Kryptonite 10-08-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 109290)
Games are not cheap to make, and pirates do to the games industry what the a-holes that drive around without car insurance do to your car insurance premium.


That's a good way to put it.
However, the pirating is 99% on pc games, which are cheap and console players pay the premium price (in general). It's more like people without car insurance cause the stable individuals with homeowners insurance to pay more. :-P

Houndstone Hawk 10-08-2009 11:49 PM

£7.99 on UK PS3? for 6 missions that players could've happily thrown together with great joy & satisfaction, if the trademark mission editor was present? and for 1 and a half airplanes? (being that only 1 plane having a cockpit & even that one's in the 'game' already as a big glaring mistake). And to fly said planes on said missions with the same broken 'game'?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I'll have the laugh for you shall I?

PERSPECTIVE: £7.49 online buys you IL-2 1946, the complete PC IL-2 experience!!!!!

Here must surely endeth this thread as I ask again ........ "Don't you feel ripped off as a console Gamer"?

Ancient Seraph 10-08-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109726)
£7.99 on UK PS3? for 6 missions that players could've happily thrown together with great joy & satisfaction, if the trademark mission editor was present? and for 1 and a half airplanes? (being that only 1 plane having a cockpit & even that one's in the 'game' already as a big glaring mistake). And to fly said planes on said missions with the same broken 'game'?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I'll have the laugh for you shall I?

PERSPECTIVE: £7.49 online buys you IL-2 1946!!!!!

Dude, seriously. Go send an email to the publishers or whatnot. This forum is visited by the developers. They have practically nothing to do with the price. They try to help us best they can, took into account our feedback for the update, don't go bitching to them about something they can't control. It's disgusting.

MorgothNL 10-08-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109726)

PERSPECTIVE: £7.49 online buys you IL-2 1946, the complete PC IL-2 experience!!!!!

how the *** is that giving perspective :confused:. Did you go 'what the heck, 65 bucks for COD5?? --> perspective: COD1 is 5 bucks online!'.

How can you compare anything to the price of a 10 year old game... srsly

PantherAttack2 10-09-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109726)
PERSPECTIVE: £7.49 online buys you IL-2 1946, the complete PC IL-2 experience!!!!!


Besides that post making you look like a jerk (and as was said, the developers have almost nothing to do with DLC price), it'll only be the PC IL-2 experience. Not the console experience, the PC one. Birds of Prey is the complete IL-2 console experience, and it's way better than other console flight sims.


This thread is becoming even more pointless than it was before.

EDIT: If you look at the prices for Rise of Flight planes (around $5 or $6USD per plane for planes that were already modeled before the game was released) , the price for BoP DLC will seem cheap to you.

Houndstone Hawk 10-09-2009 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PantherAttack2 (Post 109756)
Besides that post making you look like a jerk (and as was said, the developers have almost nothing to do with DLC price), it'll only be the PC IL-2 experience. Not the console experience, the PC one. Birds of Prey is the complete IL-2 console experience, and it's way better than other console flight sims.


This thread is becoming even more pointless than it was before.

EDIT: If you look at the prices for Rise of Flight planes (around $5 or $6USD per plane for planes that were already modeled before the game was released) , the price for BoP DLC will seem cheap to you.

Hey good call. I obviously must be some kind of a jerk to have not only bought this title for 2 platforms, but to have been passionate enough to give a sh*t about the way in which the console developer is dumbing down & destroying immersive gameplay for a higher price tag.

If I sound like a jerk in order to get my opinion across then fair game but the thread has seen some support to my views & therefore, IMO, wasn't a total waste of time.

EDIT:

Re: RISE of FLIGHT planes. Yes agreed. I made that very point earlier on; on another thread; but just compare the 2. RoF aircraft are truly beautiful creations with fully working cockpits throughout (even down to the radiator cowling flaps & engine mixture & prop pitch levers), that are more akin to an aircraft addon for FSX (and they, as you know can retail at around £20-£30 or more). The liveries are numerous as are the loadouts.
Compare that to the one & a half Bop aircraft that you have just downloaded!!!

I'm not supporting RoF & their antics because, as is the case with this title, the content was there in the 1st place, locked to the user unless they flash the card, again & again!!!

Enjoy!!!


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