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LegendMaker 11-12-2012 03:37 PM

Another odd thing I stumbled upon:

The spell "Weakness" is spontaneously cast on my Soothsayers stack, for no apparent reason.

I've been seeing this happen for dozens of battles lately, but I had assumed the enemy hero had cast it or something, but here I'm up against a mundane wandering army, without a hero or spell casting troop to explain it (their whole army is made up of Catapults and regular Orcs), and it just happened.

Even weirder, here's the log:
http://nsa32.casimages.com/img/2012/...3606813703.jpg

...and here's what actually happens:
http://nsa32.casimages.com/img/2012/...3705860452.jpg

Not the type of "bonus" anyone ever wants to get. :D

Edit: that's still pre-patches and without any mods or fixes installed (I'm still in the same game).

Lancian 11-12-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendMaker (Post 480389)

Not the type of "bonus" anyone ever wants to get. :D
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Check their mind control spell for description. It says clearly weakness is cast upon soothsayers if they use that spells. The "bonus" in log seems to be a bug indeed.

LegendMaker 11-12-2012 04:43 PM

Haha silly me! So that's actually just for using "Loki's Touch", it casts "Weakness" on your Soothsayers stack? Seems a bit odd that it's done like that (you can just dispel it right away). Also, I'm almost sure it happens without using it, sometimes (as shown in my log above, it happened while it wasn't even the stack's turn to play). Thanks, anyhow.

camelotcrusade 11-12-2012 04:57 PM

Hi guys, sorry to hear still so many problems. To everybody having hangups in battle, are you using rage skills? I've seen a lot of people reporting hangups right after using one.

Anyway, I can post some new bugs but I still need more information. Does anybody know:
  • Justice spell crash: Does it always happen when you cast it? Can anybody else confirm?
  • Orc recruiter works on inquisitors: What is happening? I only kinda remember this ability. Are you getting additional inquisitor units after battle?
  • Spellbook losing all spells (what quest are you trying to complete and which step has the fight where you are bugged after?)
  • Ratmir ornaments - is that the name of the quest? Is the bug it that is only counts 2/5 ornaments so you can't turn it in?

@cjbcreighton what is the name of that quest and what step are you on?
@Legendmaker yep, that's part of Loki's touch. And they receive an attack bonus whenever an ally critically hits something, which happened in your log correctly. I don't see any bugs there.
@RCDown I'll add the sheep bug.

RCDOWN 11-12-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by camelotcrusade (Post 480417)
@RCDown I'll add the sheep bug.

Well, after what commanderz is telling us, the hang up in battle may not be "sheep related" but something else.

I got this kind of hang quite a lot when resurrecting sheep (i can reproduce it) but he seem to get it from another problem, so maybe is something related to the AI?

Do you know how te get a debugger log file? I cannot find anything like that and i'm sure it will help the Dev a lot speeding up the fix process.
The logs folder is empty..??

LegendMaker 11-12-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by camelotcrusade (Post 480417)
@Legendmaker yep, that's part of Loki's touch. And they receive an attack bonus whenever an ally critically hits something, which happened in your log correctly. I don't see any bugs there.

Okay, now I see. I just happened to have "Divine Hand" (gives attack bonus) activated when my Archmages scored a critical hit, and when I used "Loki's Touch" (casts Weakness) after that, the effect was wiped out by the weakness, so I didn't get to see it. Alright, my mistake, and thank you both for your help!

Lancian 11-12-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by camelotcrusade (Post 480417)
Orc recruiter works on inquisitors[/b]: What is happening? I only kinda remember this ability. Are you getting additional inquisitor units after battle?

Not orc recruiter, but unit special skill Goblin Commander - it says it will give another action to selected goblin unit so they can move once again in round (similiar to paladin skill), but it works on human inquisitors. Seems like a bug to me.

Also, can somebody else confirm that mana recovery is super slow for soothsayers even with skill maxed ?

LegendMaker 11-12-2012 07:28 PM

I'm in a battle right now where a killed stack continues to appear standing, and even uses its special abilities!

I clearly got the message "the troop is killed" in the log, they no longer have an HP bar, cannot move or be targetted, and other units can even walk right through them... but they're not lying on the floor as a corpse, and they've just cast their "Evil Taunt" on my troops! What the hell is going on?! :confused:

http://nsa32.casimages.com/img/2012/...2651574286.jpg

Edit: I killed them with Gudrida's Rage, in case it makes a difference. "Skalds escort fallen warriors to Valhalla" also continues beyond their death.

And in the end, I was able to shoot them dead, with this most puzzling log: "Miss! Soothsayers do 0 damage, 1 Skald is killed." :D Well, at least I'm not stuck.

Zechnophobe 11-12-2012 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade (Post 480417)
Hi guys, sorry to hear still so many problems. To everybody having hangups in battle, are you using rage skills? I've seen a lot of people reporting hangups right after using one.

Anyway, I can post some new bugs but I still need more information. Does anybody know:
  • Justice spell crash: Does it always happen when you cast it? Can anybody else confirm?
  • Orc recruiter works on inquisitors: What is happening? I only kinda remember this ability. Are you getting additional inquisitor units after battle?
  • Spellbook losing all spells (what quest are you trying to complete and which step has the fight where you are bugged after?)
  • Ratmir ornaments - is that the name of the quest? Is the bug it that is only counts 2/5 ornaments so you can't turn it in?

@cjbcreighton what is the name of that quest and what step are you on?
@Legendmaker yep, that's part of Loki's touch. And they receive an attack bonus whenever an ally critically hits something, which happened in your log correctly. I don't see any bugs there.
@RCDown I'll add the sheep bug.


I suffered a lot of crashes last night :(. The Justice crash only happened once. It was near the end of a long fight, I figured I'd cast the spell randomly to get more progress towards that medal... and as soon as I selected a target for it, bam, crash. Couldn't repeat it afterwards. Might have to do with trying to allocate runes to things that can't get them? Dunno. I also crashed at the start of a combat, and even once when exiting the game...

I had more crashes in my play session following the patch, than all others previous to it. :(.

camelotcrusade 11-12-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zechnophobe (Post 480534)
I had more crashes in my play session following the patch, than all others previous to it. :(.

I hear you... I just started playing again and am wondering if I will see one or not. I haven't had any crashes prior to the patch and hope I don't see any now. Since they keep happening to a lot of people, though, I hope we can find some common threads to report. At any rate, I'll hold off on the Justice crash reporting for now.

I've also been comparing the pre-patch fixes to the new files and noting a lot them have been updated (not everything, though). Bhruic is working on a save scanner atm but after that he'll likely get back to the fixes that are remaining.

Edit - Btw, did you update the royal griffon's "regal" ability to specify units 1-3 or did they do that? I'm using your great language mod, obviously. :)


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