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Hi Oleg. I noticed that spitfire hasn't got propeller yet. Am I right? It's invisible :). I believe it's not made yet.
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I would suggest to newcomers into this thread, please take your time in reading and understanding all these posts carefully, so we can avoid to ask Oleg repeated questions already answered, and not to disturb him with repeated demands. :) |
Probably best if this thread was locked.
Oleg is not going to respond in this one further. If we are lucky we will have a NEW one tommorow. |
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I made a historical campaign in CFS3 using that data, and I plan to make it again in SOW BOB ;-) I am from Germany btw. |
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PS and yes I know it was bad weather in the beginning. Not enough though to make the leafs red ;-)
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However, I think that changing terrain due to weather and natural/unnatural disasters would be extremely hard to model, but I'll leave that for oleg to comment on at somepoint :D |
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regardless, we all know creating alternate history is very popular in war simulation and IL2. At some point throughout the lifespan of BoB people are going to want to have all seasons and conditions at their disposal.
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That's one of the nicer versions people posted on this forum. :grin: Quote:
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Hi Oleg,
A few small requests for the Friday update: (asking too early possibly) -Would like to see formation of bombers Ju88 with new and weathered skins. Really curious about this. I've seen screens of almost finished Ju88's 2 years ago, so should be possible I think. -The WIP on the pilot. -Ground crew activity after flight has landed. Thinking also of ambulances. And may be re-arming. -Bf109E3 Hoping for this quality: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23...9E3_JG26_4.png |
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http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/Ju-88A-1_03.jpg http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/Ju-88A-1_07.jpg http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/Ju-88A-1_15.jpg I love the detail. Gotta look awesome in the engine - I remember though, that Oleg told a few pages ago only a few planes made it into the current build. I guess the smaller planes had priority. Quote:
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http://www.stg2immelmann.de/media/1010/Blog/BoB109.jpg :cool: |
The cockpit looks absolutely amazing:
- detailed geometry - detailed, crisp textures - great lighting + self-shadowing * faints * Some negative remarks though (just my 2 cents) -Aircraft external lighting *seems* artificial/unrealistic :| -Terrain looks cartoonish (very bright colors, very *clean*). Looking forward to the end product! :D |
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Regards, Ins |
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I know, I read it. Just wanted to repeat it ;)
You guys need to lighten up. |
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In reality, he hasn't read anything of course. |
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Yes, that one absolutely like it. |
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Friends
http://avsims.com/images/Oleg%20and%20Shrek-2.jpg
I hope no one gets off on this.. just for fun. Thanks to Oleg for all the new pictures, discussing them and answering our questions. |
LOL @ nearmiss!
And by the way, it's Friday again...:rolleyes: |
[QUOTE=nearmiss;115867]http://avsims.com/images/Oleg%20and%20Shrek-2.jpg
I hope no one gets off on this.. QUOTE] Ummm! There are less of those kind of sick puppies in this community than you would think? (or so I would hope!) Ummm! Then again I could be wrong????? |
Face contest!
The image of the soldiers with the same face gave me an idea, i hope you like it.
More ahead in development, when you have to add faces to the pilots and/or soldiers, make a contest with front pictures of the people of the community. The 10, 20 or more (accordin to how many do you need) ugliest faces, will be chosen to be used his faces on the sim :D. Just in case, don't say the ugliest will be chosen, and we'll see the later on the sim the "lucky" winners! :-P :grin: :-) |
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good PS'n with Shrek n Oleg. The 109 doesn't look as detailed as the recent last friday's Spit pics, but its probably an older pic. About the you guys need to lighten up, thing . . . If you need to explain the punchline, or you're retelling a variation that the crowds already heard 30 iterations . . . the jokes dead. All in all, its good we're getting updates. If it's true with the 109, can't wait to see something 109 ish. That would be cool if they put out BOB but it came with a bonus Spanish Civil War pack with 1 map and 109 Dora and previous 109's, grumman delfins, lockheed 8's, northrop gammas, I-16's and others. |
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Simply we put more realism than others that are doing overdone of many things... I would say some time too much overdone! I see now in many games is overdone one or other feature or all at once. Many gamers are not able to compare with real life and begin to compline like this: Why they have so cool and you - not... Even when we have everything and even more than others... Same writing many journalists, that can't compare pictures with real life and comparing then only with other games where it is overdone or... comparing only using or not using one or other developer same modern type of technologies... but some technologies of effects coming on the market are totally wrong... and in time these people will undesrtand it when the new monitors with redoubled dynamic range will be present on the market....etc... the theme of the separate big article. Ok. This last post here, inspired by Shrek :). Today i will post a bit more sceenshots that will show other things in our development... Say pilots in progress, or thechnologies of real physic calculations for the changes of the sky at the whole day time... Something else maybe That would be enouthg to speak in other development topic. :) |
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Cockpit modelling
Looking at the external views of the Spit, it looks as though the modelling of the cockpit is the same as in internal view (rather than a simplified model as is the case in Il2). If that it the case, it may be possible for the POV to remain that same when a player enters or exits the plane. Currently, in IL2, when a pilot bails out the view defaults to an external view and the player is treated to the spectacle of watching as they bail out in an 'out-of-body' experience. It may be possible in SOW to maintain the POV as the player exits the plane, adding to the immersion.
I have been practicing bailing out of damaged aircraft in Il2 for 7 years now- i even landed once;) |
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So some switch of views simply must be there. However even it is different - the switch is possible to make smooth, say from the first person view (becasue when you are in cocpit - in outside of aircraft it is shown the same as in cockpit - done for the possibility to open canopy and look from sides). How it will be in final - I can't say now. The pilots models now are in progress and only when we will begin to program them we may see all possibilities how to make it well with minimal compromisses. Old Il-2 pilots for this puropse and program are not siutable in any way. So it will be known only more later. PS. If to make the same cockpits from inside and outside view all the time - then we will overload the sim so much, and then we will need to forget about playable FPS. We alreay put so much, that probably even not nesesary, looking for other game where all doing many sthings more simplified and all are glad... :) |
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Hi Oleg, I was wondering if there are many third parties, that have expressed interest in SOW to you
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At the moment not so many, if to speak about major third party MS FS add-ons publishers, but not developers... - they were all interested even when MS FS team was alive. Also the guys that are modders now will have the ability to show what they may do when it isn't neccessary to hack :) I do think there will be many in time... and of course the team that did 4.09 is in my first sight - they will get everything the first from us probably (then they will forget about Il-2 support I think). Even the guy that I not so long time rejected from a team... I had a speech couple of days ago with him... and he is also would like to make. He is very talent guy, but not organized and can't work in a team. For him would be good to be working alone. And I think if will really go for this - you all will get increadible quality things... but slow born :) |
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BTW, many thanks for your camera advice, I am going to answer on the other forum later today :-) |
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In Il2 at the moment there are several major groups of modders that have grown up around the idea of creating mods for offline and online play, and also around different languages, but because the community of mod creators is split into several groups in this way, each working to their own standards and techniques, many of the mods are not compatible with each other, and there is a wide varience in quality between mods. For Storm of War, it would be very good for all these people to be working to the same standards, with no more worrying about whether one mod will work with another and also to have the planes created by these people intergrated into the official game itself, assuming of course that these aircraft are of sufficient quality. |
Not got anything constructive to say as most of its already been covered, But if i could just ask if you and your team would honour us and sign our guestbook on our website
http://www.mightydemons.com I would mean a lot to me and my squadron. cheers and thanks in advance.. oh word of warning.. its heavily laden with little secret spyware to get more fantastic screenshots! :-P (that was a joke btw for the paranoid among us ;) ) |
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It all looks superb. One thing does trouble me slightly though. In the views looking down on the landscape there are some very prominant and distinctive tracks in the fields. These could only have been made by modern tractors using wide crop spraying booms. These would not have existed in the 1940's when there were still more horses than tractors working the land and the chemicals had not been invented so no crops would have been sprayed. This is a silly point perhaps or maybe important considering the incredible amount of detail and historical accuracy you are striving for and achieving in other areas. Historically its a bit like including a six lane motorway in the maps. I understand it's taken from a satilite shot so maybe its there as a mockup and won't be in the final game.
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Hot As Control
In relation to simulating the aircraft cockpit controls...is there more of the hot as controls..a example is the gear...it is now just a button toggle...would be nice to have it on a programable axis....i have a full simulation cockpit and would like to have mre in cockpit controls .."S"...71st Eagles Squadron....XR-A
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Why in the world would someone use a axis for gear operation.
Where is the need for stageless operation??? The Gear is usually a lever or switch with 2 positions, in or out. No need for a axis. Me thinks. |
Manual gear, maybe :rolleyes:?
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Then one might use a wheel,20 turns for wheels down or up, ok.
Or in a emergency one can move the lever up and down to simulate a hydraulik hand pump. |
That would be cool :-P
G940 users might change one of those unrealistic trimmers as a wheel for lowering down the gear. It's better than pressing a button a million times :rolleyes: If you're a G940 user and can't understand why I called those unrealistic, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. Most modern fighter aircraft have the trim on the joystick's head (don't know the exact term in English, but you guys got me, right?), as a hat switch. Want examples? Ok, here we go. F-15, A-10, Su-27/30/33/35, MiG-29/35, F-5 (OK, if you don't consider it a modern aircraft, then you have to check more on the F-5EM. It can beat, for example, any F-16 in the BVR field, so yes, it's modern) and so on. Actually, I've never saw a modern fighter jet using those, altought Logitech claimed that it was being used by such, if I remember well :rolleyes:. |
Hello Oleg
We on the West Coast of N America always seem to miss your online times, our posts get lost I think. I am reposting something, I had on the other thread, hope you can answer. Quote:
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And, well, I don't recall seing any aircraft with such sort of dials. |
A cessna 172 i.e. has a vertikal wheel for elevator, a rotating knob for rudder for shure and i think a horizontal wheel for aileron trim.
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From a Cessna 172: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/...568203.jpg?v=0 |
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about trim... using a switch means using and electric motor to move the trim tabs... back in WWII, I seriously doubt you had even ONE aircraft using switches for trim, rather than a wheel one...
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Bovine Scatology
Before people open their mouths and spout off random bovine scatology about this and that, they should donate a $1 to Oleg's son's college fund. Until then, they haven't earned the right to be critical of anything but themselves.
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Besides, I doubt there are many people on this forum who neither own IL-2 or any of its expansions nor intend to buy SoW. |
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I didn't quote the rest, as it was insane. |
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