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spherehead 10-14-2012 05:14 AM

If CLoD had a playable demo out at release time in the state that the game was in, there is no way I would have bought it. The demo would have had to work with most bugs ironed out. I waited until this Sept. to finally get the game in the hopes that its teething issues would have been resolved.
I know it now works for many, but I have spent a month With CLoD techs trying to get the game to work without success, but this thread is not about my launcher issues so I won't go on about that.
When I saw that Rise of Flight had a playable demo I downloaded it and it played great. I got hooked on playing the demo and wanted more. I upgraded to the full game and have bought four planes since. I consider myself a fan of the game.
I am not sure that I would have bought ROF before playing it and, to be honest, due to my experience of CLoD I would not even consider buying BoM without trying a demo to see if it actually works for me.

SlipBall 10-14-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spherehead (Post 469289)
If CLoD had a playable demo out at release time in the state that the game was in, there is no way I would have bought it. The demo would have had to work with most bugs ironed out. I waited until this Sept. to finally get the game in the hopes that its teething issues would have been resolved.
I know it now works for many, but I have spent a month With CLoD techs trying to get the game to work without success, but this thread is not about my launcher issues so I won't go on about that.
When I saw that Rise of Flight had a playable demo I downloaded it and it played great. I got hooked on playing the demo and wanted more. I upgraded to the full game and have bought four planes since. I consider myself a fan of the game.
I am not sure that I would have bought ROF before playing it and, to be honest, due to my experience of CLoD I would not even consider buying BoM without trying a demo to see if it actually works for me.



Your running an XP system and expecting a miracle...not gonna happen:grin:

Feathered_IV 10-14-2012 09:21 AM

If they can pull themselves together and produce a worthwhile sequel, I'm sure they would consider making a demo a priority. Assuming they have at least some grip on reality. There is no way they will be able to tempt people back otherwise. They presold clod on trust. There isn't much of that anymore.

Freycinet 10-14-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RickRuski (Post 420826)
If the current state of affairs carries on for too much longer I think that the "Team" should seriously consider a free playable demo for BoM before releasing it to the market to assure their paying customers that they finaly have things fixed. The results of this beta patch are not convincing enough to get the largest part of the community behind them. Most of us were hoping to have a major improvement with this patch, but it hasn't happend for at least 50% of us. With the original Il2 series there was a playable demo available, this convinced a large % of the supportive community to try and then buy the series. With CoD there wasn't a demo, so we went in relying on what we thought we were going to get from the advertising and the good will that had been developed with the community. From a lot of threads and replies after patch 17582 most of the goodwill is starting to go down the gurgler. I hope things get better quickly, but I've stopped expecting too much too soon.

Your demo is called Cliffs of Dover. Maybe you should move on from the terrible disappointment CoD has been for you. It is not healthy to delve too long on the saddest things that ever happened in an otherwise charmed life. Go and enjoy the trees, the fields, the sunshine, the smile of a loved one, and try to forget the trauma CoD caused.

SlipBall 10-14-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 469318)
If they can pull themselves together and produce a worthwhile sequel, I'm sure they would consider making a demo a priority. Assuming they have at least some grip on reality. There is no way they will be able to tempt people back otherwise. They presold clod on trust. There isn't much of that anymore.


Why waste resource and produce a demo, really dos'nt make much sense on the devs side of looking at things. They are in it to make money,not waste it, or distract the team. There is not much concern for those who claim they won't buy, because the devs know that is just talk. You see the investors look at the big picture, and that is public interest in the product. They only need to study forum interest, here at 1C and over at Ubi forums. They cannot find another product that comes remotely close to the interest generated by the Il-2 brand...website hits, threads started, posts made.

Dan555a 10-14-2012 09:49 AM

I was thinking the same in regards to what you said about ROF.
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RickRuski 10-14-2012 08:40 PM

Freycinet,
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Your demo is called Cliffs of Dover. Maybe you should move on from the terrible disappointment CoD has been for you. It is not healthy to delve too long on the saddest things that ever happened in an otherwise charmed life. Go and enjoy the trees, the fields, the sunshine, the smile of a loved one, and try to forget the trauma CoD caused.
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If you look at the date of my original post (5/7/12) that was about the time lots of promises were being made by the team but nothing was materialising. To call C.o.D. a demo is a bit of a slur on the developers but if you are correct, then we all paid good money
for a product which was not a retail release product (a lot of us would agree with that). All demo's (playable) that I have seen have been free, some with time limit operation which would be fair (that could be done though Steam probably without too much of a problem).

Yes, if you may think even after nearly 4 months from that original post that i'm still a little sour about C.o.D. you would be right.

18 months on after release, and a statment from Luthier that said that they broke Sli/Crossfire support just prior to release but it was their No.1 priority to fix it, we are still having to wait while all the other bells and whistles seem to be getting the priority.

Their promises for me have taken a back seat, let's see the proof of the pudding now before they get any more of my dollars.

priller26 10-16-2012 06:39 AM

Agreed, no demo, no buy, especially true with the state of the game at present which is, if you wish to see if we fixed any of the issues YOU thought were important, you have to pay for the sequel. That's a wonderful business concept which inspires tremendous confidence, and may fly in the east, but a number of us don't wish to pay 40 or 50 to fix something which remains broken. It's really amazing that a company would adopt such an attitude, height of arrogance IMHO.

Chivas 10-16-2012 08:11 AM

Chances of a demo are slim and none. There is absolutely no need for one, and it would delay the release of the Sequel for months. Most people bought COD based on their experience with the first IL-2 series. People bought COD knowing the reviews were bad, go figure. Most people will wait this time for reviews of the Sequel, from people they trust, and they will buy if its decent. If its decent even the most negative in the community will buy the series at some point. A demo is a waste of time and money, for a company already lacking in time and money.

darktatka 10-16-2012 10:54 AM

I bought it year after release for something nearing $5. After reading the reviews, I thought "surely it can't be that bad?".

It was.

Now, it's finally getting playable. I'll wait for at least a year after release with BoM too, probably for some sale as well. The "CloD demo" did not convince me ;). If there will be new "demo" which will show that it really works, I'll buy it sooner. Possibly for full price.


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