I'm sorry, but this whole thing has become quite ludicrous and completely out of any standard of common sense.

The fact is that we were sold an unfinished product, deliberately advertised as a complete game, riddled with bugs, with placeholder sounds and very poor explanation of what's happening, spending a lot of money over it. Do you agree with this?

The trusted customers and fans, the ones that have seen this thing grow up, the ones that contributed, that helped in any way, shape or form, find now themselves in a reality where the game is still seriously incomplete (and that's another fact you have to agree on), still buggy, and to add insult to injury, now selling at half the price of what it was originally sold for, and I'm not talking about 4 years ago, it's just 5 months ago.

Is people's frustration understandable and justifiable? Hell yes, and if you say no it's just because either you work for them or you just like being shafted. It's your problem, not mine, and no, I'm not asking for a patch every Friday, all I am saying is that in view of all the aforementioned points we want to know what is going on on a regular base, because we've been fooled around for far too long, and if the law here is the forum rules' law, purposely perpetrated so that there's no complaining, out there there's the real law, which would hardly deem 1C and Ubisoft behaviour as justifiable.

And stop calling everyone that disagrees with you a whiner, a whiner is someone that complains about stupid things with no knowledge of what he's on about, we are angry customers, it's quite different.

fine.... it seems then that our help is not needed...

lol, you really believe that dont you. I guess all those polls and petitions were rigged by the same 10 people, and the fact that Luthier hasn't logged onto the Russian forums since June means that the same 10 people are complaining over there as well. :grin::grin:

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Hmmm. Thread FAIL!
Actually Tree you should be made "Head Thread Fail Topic Organizer".

..seriously? :rolleyes:

How long have you been on these forums for man? THEY decide whether to say or not say things, regardless of what happens in this forum. The truth is that tehy don't give a d**n about what's going on here. And that's what needs to change, because it's not fair, and the fact that more than 200 forum members expressed their agreement on the fact that they would like regular and adequate updates on what's going on with the patch is not just the voice of 10 people, these 10 people are the ones that want to voice this protest, which is motivated and fair.

Yes, whatever you say. Just explain again How exactly a thread can fail? And then tell me what the opposite of thread fail is?

How long is a piece of String?

As a new user here, I dont understand why Moderators in this forum argue with people instead of just locking threads like this. This should have been locked after the first Mod response, I am not sure what is more frustrating about this game anymore, the lack of good information, or the loads of BS in these forums.

Right or wrong, if a Mod saw issue with this thread lock it and be done, of course I sifted through it to see that so I guess I am just as guilty lol...

That is by no means "helping".
For the most part you seem to just enjoy the attention that you get with your I'm still here-posts.
I don't know, but if I were the developer and constantly reading posts with bitter comments on how bad the game is, I would just be annoyed and the result would be down right counter-productive.

AGREED X10 well said mate