when the game is finally fixed will you all still feel 'shafted'?, do your lives rely so much on a computer game that you have to feel this way?

for CoD the bills are paid - ok, official US release has still to come...............

But after this release debacle (my opinion!) im wondering if the prorders for their "Battle of Moskau" will be so good. Fortunatly it will take some time.

When this game-engine is fixed and running there will be no remembering of the hard birth!
As in the old il2, every expansion pack will be fevered for and then immediatly dissected for real and imagined faults!
We wont learn and repeat our actions, that, i believe.

I'll probably wait for the US version to be released before I get my copy of CloD...until then I'll tease myself with the otherwise perfect looking Youtube videos of the game...and reverting back to UP3.0...again.

I stopped following the progress of CloD until very late last year, and since then, have logged in on a daily basis for a magical thread stating a new patch has made everything OK and I can now play it on my cr@ppy laptop without any issues :grin:

I can understand the initial moaning from peeps that bought this game within the first couple of days release, they weren't know what was in store, but should feel privileged to be part of the testing process that gets the devs to where they want to be with the product...and the fact they are getting to grips with the flight physics, cockpit dials/switches, engibe management and the map itself before many of us will even have rigs that handle it.

To anyone who bought this game within the last 1-2 months; and who've been reading through this forum over the last 3 months, tough-titties. You should have known what state the game was in, regardless of your rig set up.

I agree that the comms have been non-existent, but having started looking on other 'less negative forums' it really doesn't surprise me if/why they stay away. The devs have been working on this for years and it's not something they're likely to drop, or for that matter, fix in a jiffy...give them [more] time and they'll work it all out alright in the end.

The title of the thread "Patience is a Virtue" shows how un-virtuous some people on this forum can be. If you're going to shelf the game, or wait a while longer then there's really no point in setting up yet another thread to tell the world about it. You know, we know, the devs know...even my Nan knows :rolleyes:

*Logs out and runs away to another forum :-P*

I don't think you will ever be able to play it on your 'cr@ppy laptop'. There is a bit more optimisation promised but this was always going to be a resource hungry sim and it always will be. In fact it was stated that features are planned that will tax the highest spec machine. Even now the water is just a place holder - what will happen to fps when the real deal is added?
Sure there seems to be issues with some people having problems getting the game to run whilst others with comparable spec machines have far fewer issues quite apart from general bugs which need fixing. But overall I don't think there will be some magical and massive increase in fps.
Your only options are to turn your settings right down or invest in new hardware which is exactly the way it should be with a new game that intends to be around for the next decade or so.
As numerous posters have pointed out it was years before hardware caught up with the original IL2 series and the majority of players could enjoy it comfortably.

Speculation? Do you honestly think the devs willing released the sim in this condition. If the publishers/developers were just interested in screwing people over they would have released the sim world wide and forgot about it. They certainly wouldn't have released COD in the East then continued to work on it 24/7 for the Western release. Especially given all the negative publicity of the Eastern release would obviously create. I know you give the developers very little credit for any intelligence, or integrity, but it must show most people the developers are commitment to the future of the sim.

Yes COD was released before it was finished and most people understand there is alot of work to be done before its finished. Yes let new people know that COD is incomplete, but also let people know that the developers have a history of supporting their product. I don't see the necessity to spam the forums with negativity, although I suppose there would be the opportunity to say I told you so to an empty forum.

I cant speak for the rest, but I wont :)

When i can run this game at least near maxed out settings on the kind of computer listed in my SIG with smooth as silk game play in all areas, I will then likely hold it in even higher regard then I currently hold IL246(UP3.0) and ROF :)

Cant wait for this day by the way :) hope it arrives :)

I only feel that way about the game, bongodriver, not life generally, believe me! ;)

Don't get me wrong about CoD, it has enormous potential and already runs OK on my specs although very buggy. I will continue to support it when expansions arrive because I can afford to and it is the only thing out there. But I do have a bitter taste in my mouth about the way the community has been dealt with and I hope the expansions are handled differently.

I also really want to see dev involvement with the community increase for bug reporting and status updates. Have you seen these threads? These ideas could provide a tremendously useful resource:

Establishing a "real" issue tracking system?

DevHeaven Issue Tracker

Chivas, Im not disagreeing with you entirely on this, but I think it was appalling that the Dev's did not offer some explanation as to the state of CLOD upon release, letting it just slip out knowing the condition it was in in my opinion as done nothing for their reputation. Yes, there may have been pressure from UBI but we can never be sure, but UBI don't control these forums, a simple statement of fact or a heartfelt appeal to us from Luthier would have made a very big difference to how most feel about this product and where it's going.

I imagine UBI would've sued them to hell and back for breach of contract/industrial sabotage (or something). And with every justification. You can't have UBI trying to promote and distribute a game whilst the developers are simultaneously warning people the game's a right mess.

Not an ideal position to be in for Luthier et al on release day but there was little anyone could do other than have UBI shift the release date further back. And seeing the state of CoD on release it appears time had finally run out.